Is Belief Necessary for Scientific Discovery?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the philosophical implications of "nothing" in relation to scientific theories, particularly gravity. Participants explore the necessity of belief in scientific discovery and the validity of existing theories of gravity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the concept of "nothing" cannot be proven, suggesting that this limitation may hinder the development of a comprehensive theory of gravity.
  • Another participant mentions that there are two existing theories of gravity that adequately explain its workings, recommending further study of these theories.
  • A subsequent reply questions the correctness of these theories, raising doubts about their validity despite their functionality.
  • Another participant asserts that while the theories are close to the real model of gravity, they are not definitive truths but rather sets of rules that currently serve as the best available explanations.
  • One participant emphasizes that the theories are valid within observational limits, but introduces the idea that belief may play a role in their acceptance.
  • A later reply counters this by stating that beliefs should not influence the validity of scientific theories, asserting that observation is the basis for their correctness and utility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of belief in scientific theories and the validity of existing gravity theories. There is no consensus on whether belief is necessary or relevant to the acceptance of scientific models.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of current theories of gravity and the scope of their applicability, but do not resolve the underlying philosophical questions regarding "nothing" and belief.

scott_sieger
Hi guys,

I am exploring the notion that at the centre of all mass or intensities is a centre of absolute nothing. I won't go into why I am exploring this but the question that is of interests is :

How can "nothing " be proved either in theory or by evidence except by default?

And If "nothing" can not be proven then I believe a theory of gravity will never be achieved using current methods.
 
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Originally posted by scott_sieger
And If "nothing" can not be proven then I believe a theory of gravity will never be achieved using current methods.
There are TWO theories of gravity which together explain quite adequately how gravity works. I recommend learning them.
 
Sure they work, but are they right?
 
Originally posted by Jonathan
Sure they work, but are they right?
They are right within the limits of their respective scopes.
 
Originally posted by russ_watters
They are right within the limits of their respective scopes.
More precisely, they are most close to the real model of gravity, but of course they are not right theories (just a sets of rules, which whether well or bad work). However, today we have nothing better than they are.
 
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----------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by russ_watters
They are right within the limits of their respective scopes.
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Yes they right within the scope of observation mixed with some
believes.
 
Originally posted by clicky
Yes they right within the scope of observation mixed with some
believes.
Beliefs? Beliefs have nothing to do with them. Observation is how we know they are right and how we know the scope of their utility.
 

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