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 [please disseminate in your networks] Uranium Medical Research Centre [www.umrc.net] have definitively stated and published the fact that the urines of Afghan civilians near sites of bomb explosions contained U236 [Croatian Medical Journal, October 2003, http://www.cmj.hr/index.php?D=/44/5/520] This point is being ignored by the press, the activists and even the high profile anti-DU scientists. It is odd that our activist leaders and scientists have not made political hay with this conclusive and definitive finding of artificial uranium. As far as I know, no one is dropping this point on the Senate, Congress or Parliament members' laps in any any country. UMRC measured uranium isotopic ratios resembling "natural uranium". The relative trace of U236 would be undetectable for most labs, especially those subcontracted" or "licensed" by the complex. Despite up to 200 higher than normal concentration of uranium in urine, the labs would thus declare "no problem". UMRC observed a drastic incidence of low-level radiation symptoms among Afghanis near the bomb sites. It is time that anti-uranium anti-nuclear weapons groups, veterans, and concerned health professionals took a political action about it, before more people are exposed in military in civilian applications of uranium waste [see "DU = dirty uranium" in Part 3 of www.stopnato.org.uk/du-watch/bein/hamburg.htm]. Piotr Bein

They put lead compounds is gasoline and we inhaled god knows
how much. Did ANY scientist or doctor object and start a campaign to

DU is a multi-generational killer....beyond genocide...Dr. Bertell
suggests a new catagory of homicide...she calls it omicide I believe.

You will be hearing much more about DU, veterans with so-called
'gulf war syndromes' have filed law suits already.

If we must kill each other....lets do it with bad jokes!

 Recognitions: Science Advisor [q]Did ANY scientist or doctor object and start a campaign to stop leaded gasoline? [/q] Yes, many did. It worked. It worked because it was based on sound science, and because scientists and doctors have the public interest at heart. Sure, some interests fought it, but they lost. You are not espousing sound science. You become irrational and emotional when you encounter "radiation", "radioactive" or "uranium". Because you advocate irrational ideas from an emotional stance, you essentially advocate for greater suffering and death in the world. Njorl

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 Originally posted by theroyprocess [please disseminate in your networks] Uranium Medical Research Centre [www.umrc.net] have definitively stated and published the fact that the urines of Afghan civilians near sites of bomb explosions contained U236 [Croatian Medical Journal, October 2003, http://www.cmj.hr/index.php?D=/44/5/520]
Now this I find a particularly distressing discovery. Especially in light of the fact that, AFAIK, depleted uranium is not used in bombs, is it?

 Recognitions: Gold Member Staff Emeritus If you read the report, it says they found NON-depleted uranium in the urine and also in the bomb craters. This is puzzling as they admit, although the report goes on to speculate about new generation munitions (bunker-busters with uranium coatings). Why non-depleted uranium would be used for these is anybody's guess. Cheaper? By this time I wouldn't put anything past this administration.

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 Originally posted by LURCH Now this I find a particularly distressing discovery. Especially in light of the fact that, AFAIK, depleted uranium is not used in bombs, is it?
Good catch. Doesn't make any sense. But hey, who says rantings have to make sense?
 By any reasonable standard of biomedical proof, there is no safe dose,
Just out of curiosity, have you ever been exposed to direct sunlight? Does it terrify you?

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 Originally posted by selfAdjoint If you read the report, it says they found NON-depleted uranium in the urine and also in the bomb craters. This is puzzling as they admit, although the report goes on to speculate about new generation munitions (bunker-busters with uranium coatings). Why non-depleted uranium would be used for these is anybody's guess. Cheaper? By this time I wouldn't put anything past this administration.
Ah yes, I see it refers to natural uranium. This brings up some interesting possibilities. The idea that the U.S. government went to the trouble and expense to mine the uranium and then did not process the metal is not one of them. To my thinking, this leaves two viable alternatives.

The first is that there are deposits of natural uranium in the soil. This seems to me to be the most likely explanation. This could potentially be good news, as a valuable resource that the Afghans could use to help restabilize their economy.

The second is more alarming, but less probable IMHO. If the uranium is not native to the area, then it has to have been brought in from outside. Why would Afghans want to import uranium, if not to enrich it, possibly to build weapons of mass destruction?

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 John W. Gofman, M.D., Ph D, quoted by theroyprocess: The fact that humans cannot escape exposure to ionizing radiation from various natural sources ---which may well account for a large share of humanity's inherited afflictions- is no reason to let human activities INCREASE exposure to ionizing radiation.
So, no more long distance flights in modern jet aircraft (a human activity which significantly increases exposure to ionising radiation), time to return to ships and trains. Cosmic rays are ionising radiation, and human exposure to it increases significantly with height.

Better ground all astronauts too.

How to do the cost-benefit calculations? Don't forget to throw freedom and choice into the mix.

 Activists Make Nuclear Waste a Russian Election Issue MOSCOW, Russia, November 18, 2003 (ENS) http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/nov2...19.asp#anchor3 Environmental activists across Russia plan to stage protests on November 25 against the import of nuclear waste that are intended to influence public opinion in advance of national elections. Two weeks ahead of the December 7 elections to the State Duma (Parliament), Russian environmental groups will organize protests and information pickets, actions and performances aimed at informing voters across country on the positions of candidates on nuclear waste issue. Ecodefense, Russia's national anti-nuclear group since 1998, says actions will take place 20 large cities on November 25, conducted by some 50 environmental groups. The campaign is aimed at building a strong civil society by forcing parliamentarians to be more responsible. "The new elections are coming, and we have to remind voters which Duma members voted in favor of the import of nuclear waste," Ecodefense said. "Through effective public pressure we need to force the new parliament to disapprove the nuclear waste legislation as amoral and anti-democratic." In 2001, the Duma approved legislation allowing the Ministry of Atomic Energy (MinAtom) and the nuclear industry to import high-level radioactive waste such as spent nuclear fuel. At the same time, nearly 90 percent of citizens demonstrated their opposition to the new legislation, holding hundreds of actions all across the country. The parliament ignored mass public opinion. The Russian nuclear industry has announced it will import over 20,000 metric tons of nuclear waste from across the world for long term storage. The industry expects to earn nearly $20 billion for new reactor construction and spent nuclear fuel reprocessing. But Ecodefense says that for the past several years the nuclear industry has been under strong public pressure, and cannot find new customers for its spent fuel services. At the same time, Russia is having problems dealing with its own spent nuclear fuel. In Murmansk today, Victor Akhunov, head of the Russian Ministry of Atomic Energy's Department of Ecology and Nuclear Installation Decommissioning, told a meeting of an International Atomic Energy Agency expert group that Russia has 200 metric tons of spent nuclear naval fuel that it has little chance of reprocessing. He called the backlog Minatom's "most difficult current challenge." -- Posted for educational and research purposes only, ~ in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107 ~ See also http://nucnews.net - NucNews Links and Archives Technology exists to transmute, denature and forever ELIMINATE nuclear waste, plutonium and "dirty bomb" elements from nuclear waste. But the nuke industry and governments can extort far more tax payers money by threatening the public health and world peace with nukes. At least some Russians are objecting! http://members.cox.net/theroyprocess  Recognitions: Gold Member Science Advisor Staff Emeritus Interesting info theroyprocess. However, I would be more convinced to take the case you are so energetically promoting more seriously if you addressed the questions I asked in my last post in this thread.  Nereid, What 'choice' did these babies have? Your Titanic is sinking. http://politics.guardian.co.uk/print...107983,00.html It is not surprising that pro-nuke industry spin doctors and apologists are claiming the plutonium and other isotopes found in baby teeth from the Sellafield contamination cited in the news stories allegedly pose little threat to health. Cancer rates are nearly 1 in 2 today from the chemical and radioactive cess pool we live in. On other web sites, it has been argued that there is no difference between death from man made radioactive environmental contamination...and being killed in a car crash or any other lethality. This is a confabulated argument used to distract and confuse the very real health threat from radiation. It is an ancient psy-ops technique to cause doubt and befuddle the publics mind, also known as 'divide and conquer'.....by creating doubt. If the nuclear juggernaut is allowed to carry on as they have, the future is bleak indeed. Gort... klaatu, barada, nickto.....kapish! -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dennis F. Nester Phoenix,AZ http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0308/S00219.htm http://members.cox.net/theroyprocess  Recognitions: Gold Member Science Advisor Staff Emeritus [b(] [:((] Whatever damage babies and others may suffer as a result of nuclear fallout (etc), they suffer 100, 1,000, maybe a million times as much damage from natural sources of radiation. However I have yet to see you address this issue! [:((] [:((] [:((] If the Roy Process can render radionuclides harmless, it would be *far* better to use it to reduce the damage caused by naturally-occurring radioactivity. Better how? Better in a) greater reduction in harm to babies per$ of investment; b) greater chance of acceptance (sure beats tilting at windmills any day). BTW, how many 'unnecessary' baby cancers are caused by their irresponsible parents taking them on trans-pacific flights? Perhaps you could start a movement to prosecute the parents? the airlines??

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