How do I remove copper from water (be realistic)

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The discussion centers around methods to remove copper from water, particularly in the context of a distillation setup where a copper condenser is causing a copper taste in the distilled product. Participants explore practical solutions and alternatives, emphasizing realistic approaches without resorting to expensive laboratory equipment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that distilling the water again is not a viable solution, as copper ions are difficult to remove from solution and any reaction to precipitate them could further contaminate the water.
  • Another participant mentions that using a reverse osmosis (RO) kit might be an option, though they note that these kits are not particularly effective at removing most metal ions and suggest considering the addition of EDTA to form complexes that could be removed.
  • A question is raised about the possibility of passivating copper using nitric or citric acid, with one participant asserting that nitric acid would dissolve copper and that citric acid is ineffective for passivation but can clean copper.
  • Another participant acknowledges that while passivation of copper is more complex than with stainless steel, there are commercial solvents available that can effectively passivate copper.
  • Some participants propose using zeolites as a method to remove copper ions from water, indicating that they can target transition metals including copper.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of various methods for removing copper from water, with no consensus reached on a single solution. There is also disagreement regarding the feasibility of passivating copper and the effectiveness of certain chemical treatments.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in the effectiveness of common household methods and the potential for further contamination when attempting to remove copper ions. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the properties of copper and the effectiveness of various treatments.

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I made a distillation rig, and it works fairly ok for the most part. The problem is that the condenser is made of copper, and it leaves a strong copper taste in the product.
How can I remove the copper from the water? When I say be realistic, I mean don't suggest something like "oh run it through a $1000 deionizer you find a lab" sort of deal.
 
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sure, just distill the water again...just kidding.

copper ions are not going to come out of solution easily. doing some kind of reaction to get them to precipitate out will ruin the drinking water further.

you are going to need one of those $1000 barnstead units i guess.

the only realistic option is to not use copper, or to at least flush the copper out really well since it is obviously corroding. many households have plumbing made of copper, yet it doesn't affect the quality of the water unless the copper is being oxidized. just use glass, it will work better anyway.
 
For about $100 or less, you can buy a home RO kit. These are typically not great at removing most metal ions. Have you thought about adding EDTA ? I think RO kits are pretty good at taking out EDTA complexes. This is just a thought, so you might want to look into it further.
 
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren
 
chroot said:
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren

In a word nope. Nitric acid will dissolve the Cu and any complexes formed with citrate will be water soluble.

ShawnD if you must use copper (I am clueless as to why), there are various zeolites that can be used to remove transition metal (including Cu+/2+). Google it ;)
 
chroot said:
Can you passivate copper in the same manner as you can stainless steel? Using a nitric or citric acid bath?

- Warren
It's a little harder than that. Yes, copper can be passivated well enough that it won't be dissolved much by distilled water. I know for sure that citric acid does not work for passivating copper - though it works well for cleaning it. Not sure about nitric acid, but I have my doubts. I know there are commercially available solvents for passivating copper. One that I know works pretty well has a name that is basically "M" followed by some number (and/or more letters).
 

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