Solve Series Convergence Problem: Ratio Test

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The discussion revolves around testing the convergence of various infinite series, including factorial and polynomial expressions. Participants are exploring the application of convergence tests, particularly the ratio test, to determine the behavior of these series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the ratio test to the series involving factorials and are questioning how to simplify the expressions. Some express uncertainty about their understanding of convergence tests and seek clarification on their application.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problems. There is a mix of attempts to apply known tests and requests for further clarification on specific series.

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Some participants note the constraints of time and workload, indicating that they are under pressure to complete their assignments. There is also mention of varying levels of familiarity with convergence tests among participants.

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how in the world do i test this series for convergence? I know that i should use the ratio test but I'm not sure how to rewrite the expression:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{(2n)!}{n^n}[/tex]
 
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I don't know how to solve any of these so i might as well post them.

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{\cos{n\pi}}{n}[/tex]


[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{n^{1000}}{1.001^n}[/tex]


[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{n!}{1000^nn^{1000}}[/tex]


[tex]\sum_{n=2}^\infty(-1)^n\frac{n}{2n+1}[/tex]


all i need to know is if they converge. I don't need to find their sums, if they exist.
thanks in advance I'm at a loss as to what to do. these are due tomorrow afternoon.
 
these must be some difficult problems! I guess i don't feel so bad now.
 
You are getting no response, not because they are difficult questions (some are, some aren't) but because you have given no indication about what you know, what convergence tests you might try, or what you have actually tried.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You are getting no response, not because they are difficult questions (some are, some aren't) but because you have given no indication about what you know, what convergence tests you might try, or what you have actually tried.


These are the test that i know.

1. nth term test for divergence

2. convergence of p-series

3. ratio test

4. integral test

5. root test

I have tried what i know. I guess I'm not seeing how to apply these test. I haven't posted here for quick answers because i want to know how to solve these problems myself. I just don't see how to solve them right now.
 
Try the ratio test on the first problem and post how it goes.

--J
 
i'm not coming up with anything.
 
Clearly, since you're asking the question. I meant post your work and the steps you followed.

--J
 
RadiationX said:
how in the world do i test this series for convergence? I know that i should use the ratio test but I'm not sure how to rewrite the expression:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{(2n)!}{n^n}[/tex]


for this one i know that i should use the ratio test but i don't know how to simplify the factorial. I know this much

[tex]\frac{2(n+1)!}{(n+1)^{n+1}}\frac{n^n}{2n!}[/tex]

is this much correct?
 
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this is my fault I've taken too many credits over the summer session. I should know this stuff but with cal III, D.E., world religions, and amh history in 12 weeks it's killing me.
once i get past tomorrow i can devote about 12-14 hrs to getting caught up.
 
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You're close. You might be right, and might've missed a set of parentheses you needed.

You're looking for

[tex]\frac{(2(n+1))!}{(n+1)^{n+1}}\frac{n^n}{2n!}[/tex]

Note that (2n+2)! = (2n+2)(2n+1)(2n)! and that (n+1)^(n+1) = (n+1)(n+1)^n.

Can you simplify it from there?

--J
 
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Since I need to sleep, I'll give you some hints for the rest.

For the second one, calculate [itex]\cos{n\pi}[/itex] for a few n. See a pattern? See if you can't represent the cosine as something more familiar, and your series should become familiar.

Third and fourth can both be determined by the ratio test.

For the fifth, consider the most basic conditions on [itex]a_n[/itex] for [itex]\sum{a_n}[/itex] to converge.

--J
 
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Justin Lazear said:
Since I need to sleep, I'll give you some hints for the rest.

For the second one, calculate [itex]\cos{n\pi}[/itex] for a few n. See a pattern? See if you can't represent the cosine as something more familiar, and your series should become familiar.

Third and fourth can both be determined by the ratio test.

For the fifth, consider the most basic conditions on [itex]a_n[/itex] for [itex]\sum{a_n}[/itex] to converge.

--J

the third one is inconclusive using the ratio test because the limit of the ratio is equal to 1
 
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RadiationX said:
the third one is inconclusive using the ratio test because the limit of the ratio is equal to 1

That is not true. The ratio tends to be infinite (it is compatitable with n).
 
  • #15
torchbear said:


That is not true. The ratio tends to be infinite (it is compatitable with n).

The third one converges and the limit of the ratio is less than 1, it is 1/1.001.

--J
 

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