Ball Lightning: Eyewitness Accounts and Descriptions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around eyewitness accounts and descriptions of ball lightning, exploring personal experiences, potential explanations, and the nature of the phenomenon. Participants share anecdotes and raise questions about the existence and behavior of ball lightning, as well as related phenomena like lightning and plasma clouds.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about personal experiences with ball lightning and express interest in hearing stories.
  • One participant mentions observing ground lightning and questions the causes of lightning in general.
  • Another participant humorously references creating a plasma cloud in a microwave, suggesting it may relate to ball lightning.
  • A participant recounts a personal experience of seeing two glowing orange balls after a lightning strike, proposing various explanations for the sighting, including power lines, tree branches, or airborne matter.
  • Some participants note skepticism regarding the existence of ball lightning, indicating that there are no confirmed reports, depending on definitions of "confirmed."
  • One participant suggests that the perception of ball lightning may be influenced by factors such as persistence of vision, particularly in low-light conditions.
  • Another participant highlights the fringe nature of the topic, suggesting that it may represent an unknown physical effect despite the lighthearted remarks from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of curiosity and skepticism regarding ball lightning, with no consensus on its existence or nature. Multiple competing views and interpretations of experiences are present.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about ball lightning remain speculative, with participants acknowledging the difficulty in confirming sightings and the influence of personal perception on experiences.

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Ball Lightning!

Has anyone observed ball lightning (in close proximity) with their own eyes? Could you describe its behavior? What were your first thoughts? Thanks in advance.
 
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Only as a Magic:The Gathering card from The Dark (just kidding..)

Seriously, though, no. I hope to hear some great stories about ball lightnings in this thread; it's a good topic.

Welcome to PF, BTW.
 
Ditto about the welcome!

I haven't seen ball lightning, but I have observed ground lighting. That's is crazy stuff! I bet if you google for some pictures you'll find some. I'll see if I can come up with any.

While we're here...what causes lighting anyway?
 
Well, I could start waving my hands and say that a huge difference of voltage is generated between the cloud and the ground, causing a massive current (i.e lightning ("ordinary", non-ball version, that is)) to be set up.
However, since I know next to nothing about the theme, I'll shut up, and wait for the actually knowledgeable to give you a good answer.
 
While heating up diced carrots in my microwave oven I inadvertantly created a plasma cloud. Does that count?
 
Temych
Look at this thread

Credible Anomalies Awaiting Proper Investigation
Scepticism and debunking.
 
my aunt has, i think she said it wandered through the back door and flew through the house, then eventually fizzled out.

my mum's seen fork lightning right in front of her
 
People regard this subject as fringe and make flippant remarks about it, but
it is a possible unknown physical effect, laugh if you wish or make jokes about
it, but you may be enlightened later.
 
TYMECH,
As you have probably deduced from Wolram's comments, there is some debate as to wether or not ball lightning even exists. No comfirmed reorts about it are available (depending on your definition of "confirmed", I suppose).

I thought I saw it once about 15 years ago in a field in Southern Michigan, but it's hard to say for sure. What I saw was a ground strike hitting in a field about a Killometer away. After the bolt ceased, there remained behind it two glowing orange balls, one directly above the other. The lower of these two objects was perhaps 2 or 3 meters above the ground, the upper one maybe 7 or 8 meters. They sat dead still for several seconds (about five or six, think), then faded out quickly and vanished.

I imediately started trying to explain tnhe event to myself. Possible explanation include;

-a pair of power lines, one directly above the other (but it's highly unlikely that two power lines struck by lightning would remain hovering and stationary, and the field in question has no power lines running through it).

-two tree branches (difficult to judge distances, because the event happened quite far away and at night, but it appeared to have happened far from the wooded area. Also, a later examination of the field's perimeter revealed no scorched trees)

-spots in my eyes because of the flash (two spots arranged vertically seems unlikely, as does the effect of the two remaining stationary in the field).

-airborn matter struck by the lightning (the spots held stationary, any airborn matter light enough to remain airborn for 5 or 6 seconds would have moved about in the high winds of the storm)
 
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See this site about the Microwave oven plasm cloud.
[URL]http://c3po.barnesos.net/homepage/lpl/grapeplasma

IT is one of many sites, and the phenomenon is commonly seen (but few know what just happened when sparks fly inside their microwave).

"Ball lightning" is suspected by several of these sites to be an example of such plasma clouds.

IF one was witnessed at night, I suspect that persistance of vision would cause the appearance of more "flying around" than actually occurs. My guess.
 
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