New Theory: Gravity Matter Doubles Size Every 26.7s

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The discussion revolves around a proposed theory suggesting that matter doubles in size every 26.7 seconds, with implications for gravitational interactions and the motion of celestial bodies, including the Earth and the Moon. Participants explore the theoretical underpinnings, potential consequences, and challenges to this idea, engaging in both conceptual and technical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims that matter doubles in size every 26.7 seconds, suggesting that an object at a distance of 12,000 meters from Earth would be caught by the Earth in that time frame, neglecting air friction.
  • Another participant challenges this claim, stating that an object falling from 12,000 meters would take approximately 50 seconds to reach the Earth, not 26.7 seconds.
  • Some participants question the basis for the proposed theory, asking for supporting data and measurements to validate the claims made.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of the theory on gravitational attraction, with one participant suggesting that gravity exists between objects regardless of distance.
  • Another participant argues that the Moon does not move in a spiral and that the proposed theory does not align with established observations in physics.
  • One participant raises questions about the implications of matter expansion on light speed and gravitational effects, seeking clarification on these points.
  • A more philosophical perspective is introduced, suggesting that gravity and its mysteries may not be as simplistic as often portrayed.
  • Another participant critiques the complexity of the proposed theory compared to Newtonian gravity, which is described as simpler and more straightforward.
  • One post presents a complex view of gravity as a distortion of spacetime, proposing that gravitational fields create an illusion of attraction through the warping of spacetime.

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Participants express a range of views, with significant disagreement on the validity of the proposed theory. Some participants challenge the foundational claims, while others seek to understand the implications and underlying assumptions. No consensus is reached regarding the theory's accuracy or feasibility.

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Participants note the absence of empirical evidence supporting the theory, highlighting the importance of measurements in validating physical theories. The discussion also reflects varying levels of understanding and interpretation of gravitational concepts.

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matter doubles its size every 26.7 seconds

an object that is the Earth radius distance (something more than 12000 m) away from the Earth surface will be caugth by the Earth surface after 26,7 seconds (not taking into account air friction)

the trajectory of the moon respect the Earth therefore would be of a spiral to keep the relative distance

what do you think?
 
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Originally posted by raaaid
matter doubles its size every 26.7 seconds

an object that is the Earth radius distance (something more than 12000 m) away from the Earth surface will be caugth by the Earth surface after 26,7 seconds (not taking into account air friction)

the trajectory of the moon respect the Earth therefore would be of a spiral to keep the relative distance

what do you think?
I think something falling to Earth from 12,000 meters altitude would take approximately 50 seconds to hit the earth, neglecting air friction, not 26.7 seconds.

I also think this does not belong in this forum. Try the theory development forum.

- Warren
 
Why do you say these things? What is your basis for these beliefs?
 
i just try to explain the absence of reaction force in gravity (you feel the reaction force in an acelerating car by your head going backwards but you won't feel that reaction forces in a lift that suddenly drops)

also basing in this theory i can say that there will always be some gravity between two objects however far they are from each other

as i have not really much idea on physics i just expect somebody to prove me wrong with facts
 
What facts do you need?

Matter does not double in 26s or 26 hours. Obsevation is all that is needed.

Like wise the moon does not move in a spiral. Your statements do not correspond to reality and are therefore incorrect.
 
if the observator also doubles its size he won't notice that the Earth doubles as well and if the distance between the Earth and the moon also doubles you wouldn't notice either that the moon distance doubles

but being both, the Earth and the observator relativily stopped in space, the surface of the Earth will move much faster when doubling its size than the observators feet when doubling their size so the Earth surface will press against his feet
 
Supporting data?
 
the universe is said to have come from a tiny spot this would confirm it and this kind of gravity would avoid the posiblity of the universe ending in two gigantic black holes turning around each other forever

it would also explain the slowing of the planet orbits around the sun, which i suposse from this theory (would be explain by an spiral trajectory)

what i really wonder is if according the actual theory there would be or not gravitational atraction between two objects very far apart
 
In the world of Physics, since the days of Gallilo, all physical theories have been based on measurements. When I say supporting data I mean physical measurements, not more words. Where are your measurements that give rise to this theory?

You have none, you do not have a theory, Only words. Words do not cut it.
 
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Originally posted by Integral
In the world of Physics, since the days of Gallilo, all physical theories have been based on measurements. When I say supporting data I mean physical measurements, not more words. Where are your measurements that give rise to this theory?

You have none, you do not have a theory, Only words. Words do not cut it.
Integral, have you met Scott_Sieger...
 
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He's really more philosophical.
 
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I posted, then removed my comment.
 
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Originally posted by raaaid
matter doubles its size every 26.7 seconds

an object that is the Earth radius distance (something more than 12000 m) away from the Earth surface will be caugth by the Earth surface after 26,7 seconds (not taking into account air friction)

the trajectory of the moon respect the Earth therefore would be of a spiral to keep the relative distance

what do you think?

I think it's dumb. It's not anything we see in observation. The moon's gravitational effect is not strong enough to individually affect objects to the extent you believe, given the Earth's gravitational field is much stronger.
 
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Also, Newtonian gravity seems simpler than your explanation, since it only requires one particular behavior for the strength of attraction (m1m2/r2), while your spiral seems to need some tuning for each pair of bodies.
 
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expantion of matter and gravity. all mis understanding

[misunderstanding:why.please answerthis questionsa
if matter expanded,then radius of Earth expanded in 26/7s .because the time
needed light pass equale this dimension is the same,thus this theory tell us
light speed doubled every 26/7s .why?
2:a human matter doubled as well Earth matter every 26/7s.thus there is equal
expantion and why we must feel acceleration and so called gravity
that is only two simple question and i don't need to say any moor
but i want to mention that final theory and all of this kinds really think
that we are some foolish ??absolutely gravity is a mystry but answer
is not as foolish??
 
  • #16
The apple tree is a kenetic energy machien

The inverse square law states all Fields are mathmaticaly infanite. Ergo each field source is a ripple in the pool of spacetime. Indeed Space time conforms to the contours of Grvitational Fields because spacetime itself seems to be a product of the same energy source which creates the said fields.

The curvature of space around heavenly bodies and the mutual attraction of field sources seems to sugest that gravitational field sources pull space into themselves. Bodies in physical contact are creating the illusion of atraction through the dilation of time and curvature of space.

Matter is the central distortion of a defineable field with in the timespace continume. The warping of timespace creates a central distortion with in the Nucleaus of the atom at maximum velocity, The velocity of the atom opens a temporal doorway alowing the atom to recharge from zerotime (pure energy) Energy eminating from the energy base of space time allows the atom to sustain itself in this entropic state. Gravity creates the warping of space time as a byproduct of the temporal doorway created by the atom. Ergo atoms are ossilating minny singularites which create temporal distorions in the fabaric of space time.
 

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