Calculating Cost of 1KWhr Heat from a Reversible Heat Pump

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The discussion revolves around calculating the cost of heating provided by a reversible heat pump, specifically focusing on the relationship between the heat pump's efficiency and the efficiency of the electrical motor driving it. The temperatures involved are 20°C for the building and 5°C for the atmosphere.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the distinction between the efficiency of the heat pump and the motor, questioning the application of the Carnot efficiency formula. There is confusion regarding the correct temperatures to use and how they relate to the coefficient of performance (COP) of the heat pump.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of efficiency and COP, suggesting that the original poster reconsider their assumptions about the efficiencies involved. There is an acknowledgment of the need to use absolute temperatures (Kelvin) in calculations.

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The original poster expresses confusion about the problem setup and the definitions used, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the relationship between motor efficiency and heat pump performance. The cost of electricity is specified as 6p per kWh.

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A perfectly reversible heat pump heats a building at 20deg from the atmosphere at 5deg. If the heat pump is run by an electrical motor whose efficiency is 80%, what is the cost of 1KWhr of heat supplied? (1KWhr of electricity is 6p)

I am confused by this qn as I thought the efficiency, e = 1-(T1/T2), which in this case would be 0.75 and not 0.8?!
Could someone give me a clue on where I'm going wrong please!
 
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h.a.y.l.e.y said:
A perfectly reversible heat pump heats a building at 20deg from the atmosphere at 5deg. If the heat pump is run by an electrical motor whose efficiency is 80%, what is the cost of 1KWhr of heat supplied? (1KWhr of electricity is 6p)

I am confused by this qn as I thought the efficiency, e = 1-(T1/T2), which in this case would be 0.75 and not 0.8?!
Could someone give me a clue on where I'm going wrong please!

Let's see. You have a perfect reversible heat pump of coefficient of operation [tex]COP[/tex] connected to an electric motor of efficiency [tex]\eta_e[/tex].

The coefficient of operation of the heat pump is defined as:

[tex]COP=\frac{Q_h}{W}=\frac{T_h}{T_h-T_c}[/tex] being [tex]W[/tex] the work exerted on the cooling fluid.

So that you can work out the COP because you have all temperatures. The net COP of the whole would be:

[tex]COP_n=\frac{Q_h}{W_e}=\frac{Q_h \eta_e }{W}=\eta_e COP[/tex]

so this yield another number.

for [tex]Q_h=1KWh[/tex] the cost of the electrical power which must be supplied is:

[tex]C=\frac{1}{COP_n}c[/tex] being [tex]c[/tex] the cost of 1 KWh of electricity (6p)
 
h.a.y.l.e.y said:
A perfectly reversible heat pump heats a building at 20deg from the atmosphere at 5deg. If the heat pump is run by an electrical motor whose efficiency is 80%, what is the cost of 1KWhr of heat supplied? (1KWhr of electricity is 6p)

I am confused by this qn as I thought the efficiency, e = 1-(T1/T2), which in this case would be 0.75 and not 0.8?!
Could someone give me a clue on where I'm going wrong please!
You are confusing motor efficiency with the efficiency or coefficient of performance of the heat pump. They are quite different and independent concepts. Also you have to use K not [itex]\degree C[/itex]

The efficiency of the heat pump is given by the coefficient of performance:

[tex]cop = \frac{Q_h}{W} = \frac{Q_h}{Q_h-Q_c} = \frac{1}{1 - Q_c/Q_h}[/tex]

For a Carnot (reversible) cycle, [itex]\Delta S = Qh/Th - Qc/Tc = 0[/tex] so:<br /> <br /> [tex]Q_c/Q_h = T_c/T_h[/tex]<br /> <br /> so:<br /> [tex]cop = \frac{1}{1 - T_c/T_h}[/tex]<br /> <br /> Using K, work out the cop. From that you can determine the amount of heat delivered to the building for each joule of work supplied. Since the motor is 80% efficient, for each joule of electrical energy consumed it delivers .8 J of work to the heat pump.<br /> <br /> AM[/itex]
 
V Helpful, I can now get the correct answer!
Thanks for your time guys.
 

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