How to Solve e^x+e^{3x}-1=0 for x?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation e^x + e^{3x} - 1 = 0 for x, which transforms into a cubic equation in terms of y = e^x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the transformation of the original equation into a cubic form, questioning the existence of solutions and discussing the nature of the roots.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different perspectives on the cubic equation derived from the original problem. Some express uncertainty about the existence of real solutions, while others mention the complexity of the roots.

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There are indications of confusion regarding specific values, such as x=0, and the implications of the cubic function's behavior in relation to the original equation.

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how do i solve
[tex]e^x+e^{3x}-1=0[/tex]
for x?
 
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to make it simple let y=e^x

thus giving y^3 + y - 1 = 0
y(y^2 + 1) = 1

i looked at this quickly and i don't think that you would get a solution for x.
 
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Let y= ex and the equation becomes y3+ y- 1= 0. Can you solve that?
 
how can the answer be x=0?
[tex]e^{x}+e^{3x}-1=0[/tex]
[tex]e^{0}+e^{3\times{0}}-1=0[/tex]
[tex]1+1-1=0[/tex]
[tex]1=0[/tex]??
 
the answer cannot be zero, i edited my post (sorry about that)
 
no prob, but is there really no solution?
 
well it makes sense to me because this is a cubic function right? how did you go about solving for y?
 
i didn't, i don't know how to
 
There is 1 real answer and 2 initial complex answers, being non-simple roots of the cubic equation they all look quite nasty.
 
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could someone explain how to find the real answer?
 
  • #11
Check out Mathworld's page on the cubic equation.

Daniel.
 
  • #12
ok, thanks
 
  • #13
you can set
[tex]y=e^x[/tex]
then the equation will become [tex]y+y^3-1=0[/tex]
now you can creat the term [tex]y^2[/tex],then minus the same term.
 

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