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The discussion revolves around deriving the governing differential equation for the current in a parallel RC circuit driven by a voltage source. Participants explore the implications of using impedances in both AC and DC contexts, as well as the differences in behavior when substituting a capacitor with an inductor.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help in formulating the differential equation for a parallel RC circuit, noting the complexity due to current splitting.
  • Another participant provides the formula for total impedance in parallel circuits and discusses its relevance to AC and DC sources.
  • It is noted that the currents through the resistor and capacitor can be expressed independently, with specific equations for each component.
  • Questions arise regarding the application of impedance for different types of voltage sources, particularly in the context of step functions and Laplace transforms.
  • Participants discuss the governing differential equation for the original RC circuit, with one confirming the proposed equation.
  • A later post raises a question about the governing equation when substituting an inductor for the capacitor, expressing uncertainty about the integral form of the equation.
  • Another participant confirms that the integral equation is valid for the new circuit configuration with an inductor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the formulation of the governing differential equations for both the RC and RL circuits, but there remains some uncertainty regarding the application of impedance concepts and the interpretation of the integral in the RL case.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the conditions under which impedances apply, particularly in relation to AC versus DC sources, and the implications of initial conditions on the behavior of the circuit components.

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I have an RC circuit driven by a voltage source. The resister and capacitor are in parallel. I'm having a problem figuring out the governing differential equation for the current of the circuit. I could figure it out easily if it were a series circuit as the current is the same for each branch, but since the current splits between the resister and capacitor branches, I cannot figure it out. I would appreciate any help.
 
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For any two impedances z1 and z2 in parallel, the total impedance is (z1-1 + z2-1)-1.

- Warren
 
Do impedances apply for both AC and DC voltage sources?
 
The two currents are independent. You have:
iR = V/R
iC = C dV/dt

If The initial voltage of the capacitor is different from the initial value of the voltage source you will have an impulse of current in your capacitor.

Impedances only have meaning with time varying voltages and currents. Notice that a step is a time varying function. So if you have a constant voltage source that is not initially connected to the circuit and you switch it on, this corresponds to a step of voltage. The impedance of the capacitor will be 1/sC, where s is the Laplace transform variable, but you really don't need it.
 
I know that a capacitor's impedance is given by [tex]Z_c=\frac{1}{\omega C}[/tex]. If the circuit in question is driven by a DC voltage and a switch closes at t=0 to deliver the voltage, what should I use for [tex]\omega[/tex]?
 
cpuwildman said:
I know that a capacitor's impedance is given by [tex]Z_c=\frac{1}{\omega C}[/tex]. If the circuit in question is driven by a DC voltage and a switch closes at t=0 to deliver the voltage, what should I use for [tex]\omega[/tex]?

No, this expression is valid only for a senoidal wave of frequency ω
For a step excitation (DC source switched at t = 0, you should use [tex]Z_c=\frac{1}{s C}[/tex], where s = σ + jω is a complex frequency associated with the Laplace transform variable.
In your case you don't need to use this concept. Use directly [tex]i_c=\frac{C dv}{dt}[/tex], where v(t) = V.u(t).
The derivative of the step function u(t) is δ(t), the unit impulse.
For the current in the resistor, it is simply [tex]i_r=\frac{v(t)}{R}[/tex].
The total current driven from the source is [tex]i_s=i_c + i_r[/tex]
 
So then the governing differential equation would be [tex]i(t)=\frac{v(t)}{R}+C\frac{dv(t)}{dt}[/tex]?
 
cpuwildman said:
So then the governing differential equation would be [tex]i(t)=\frac{v(t)}{R}+C\frac{dv(t)}{dt}[/tex]?

You are right.
 
Thanks for the help.

Now, if I had the same circuit substituting an inductor for the capacitor, I would get [tex]i(t)=\frac{v(t)}{R}+\frac{1}{L}\int^{t}_{0}v(\tau)d\tau[/tex]. Is this the governing differential equation for [tex]i(t)[/tex] in the new circuit? I'm not sure because of the integral.
 
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cpuwildman said:
Thanks for the help.

Now, if I had the same circuit substituting an inductor for the capacitor, I would get [tex]i(t)=\frac{v(t)}{R}+\frac{1}{L}\int^{t}_{0}v(\tau)d\tau[/tex]. Is this the governing differential equation for [tex]i(t)[/tex] in the new circuit? I'm not sure because of the integral.
Yes, this would be an integral equation. The solution for a step of amplitude V is:
[tex]i(t)=\frac{V.u(t)}{R}+\frac{V}{L}t.u(t)[/tex].
 

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