Obtaining Energy from Stars: Grand Challenge

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The discussion revolves around the exploration of innovative methods to obtain energy from stars, specifically excluding well-established techniques such as photovoltaics and mirror concentrators. Participants are encouraged to think creatively about potential solutions that could harness stellar energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants propose various methods, including the Penrose process and Dyson spheres, while questioning the definition of "effective" in this context. There is a call for more creative and sophisticated solutions beyond traditional methods.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants expressing disappointment over the perceived simplicity of previous responses and the categorization of the thread. Some have suggested advanced concepts in optics and energy manipulation, while others emphasize the need for clarity and creativity in responses.

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There are constraints on acceptable solutions, as certain methods have been explicitly excluded from consideration. The discussion also reflects a tension between the complexity of the topic and the expectations for responses within the forum's homework help context.

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What is the most effective way to obtain energy from a star? Answers may not include:

1. photovoltaics
2. mirror concentrators

since they are already well understood.
 
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The Penrose process. It only works for a Kerr black hole, though.
 
Photosynthesis
 
InfernoSun said:
What is the most effective way to obtain energy from a star?

A Dyson sphere would seem to be one of the most effective way of gathering energy from a star without interfering with it.
 
Please define "effective". Conversion efficiency? Budgetary? Maximium yield?
 
"Effective" means whatever you think would work. Solutions need to be more creative though. Concepts may not include (updated):

1. photovoltaics
2. mirror concentrators
3. photosynthesis
4. Dyson spheres
5. black hole physics

... unless they are truly honest-to-god sophisticated and have a chance of working.
 
InfernoSun said:
"Effective" means whatever you think would work. Solutions need to be more creative though.

Perhaps you should be a little bit more specific. We can't read your mind and there's nothing wrong with those things suggested so far.
 
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InfernoSun,

No one here is simply going to do your homework for you. We can help you if you get stuck, but simply asking us to give you "creative solutions" to pass off as your own will not likely get you much credibility here. Can you think of any solutions? We could discuss their various merits with you.

- Warren
 
I'm a little disappointed in the responses, particularly that this thread was moved to "Homework-Grade K-12" category as it is almost certainly too advanced a subject for even university bachelors degree level.

I was hoping to see something along the lines of advanced optics: large-source fresnel diffraction plate engineering, staged coherent radiation sources, synchrotron sources, beamed energy, sub-wavelength wave manipulation, maybe even waveguides based on distantly-separated quantum-entangled optical apertures.

Nothing I've investigated can provide industrial power levels to Earth at a cost that competes with nuclear fission. Too bad considering how much energy is given off by the Sun. Enough to power millions of civilizations like ours. It's the most abundant source of energy in the universe, the most reliable, the most long-lasting, the highest capacity, and seemingly the least accessible.

Ergo, I present it as a Grand Challenge.
 

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