What Are the Effects of EM on Matter?

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The discussion focuses on the effects of electromagnetic (EM) radiation on various forms of matter, including biological and electronic materials. Participants explore the mechanisms of absorption, interaction with different densities, and potential biological effects, particularly in medical applications such as MRI and laser surgery.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to understand how different types of EM radiation can selectively affect certain parts of the body while leaving others unaffected, referencing medical applications.
  • Another participant notes that absorption of EM radiation is influenced by the interaction between waves and charges, emphasizing that electromagnetic waves primarily interact with electrons rather than heavier ions.
  • It is mentioned that scattering is a significant effect related to absorption and reflection, particularly in non-uniform materials, which can lead to phenomena such as image blurring in hot air.
  • A participant introduces the concept of ionization, explaining that certain wavelengths of EM radiation can provide enough energy to electrons to allow them to leave their atoms, potentially leading to chemical reactions and alterations in DNA, which could result in cancer.
  • Concerns are raised about the long-term effects of exposure to long-wave radiation (e.g., from mobile phones) on the brain, with an acknowledgment that the mechanisms may be subtle and not yet conclusively determined.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying viewpoints on the effects of EM radiation, with some agreeing on the mechanisms of absorption and ionization while others highlight the uncertainty regarding long-term exposure effects. No consensus is reached on the overall implications of these interactions.

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Limitations include the complexity of interactions between EM radiation and different materials, the dependence on specific wavelengths for ionization, and the unresolved nature of long-term exposure effects.

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I am trying to start a discussion on the Effects of EM on matter (biological, electronic and other matter).

I am trying to understand the relationship between quantities Electromagnetic (EM) and effects on matter. In particular many types of EM used for medical purposes and can reach certain parts of the body without effect others (Cutting,heating,imaging,resonating,flexing...) in (MRI,CAT,Laser Surgery...). I am trying to understand how this is possible and the quantiles involved. The formula E=hf is used to define absorption in my sources, but they talk about energy needed to bring to the atom to the next energy level?

-So usably given a mix (wave length, frequency) and (Watts or joules). From this I am attempting to find what matter will absorption the frequency? Especially when going through matter of different densities.
-And what quantities (Volts, Charge,Pressure,Force,Energy,Temperature) that matter will be induced with?
-Any known biological effects caused by Absorptions?
 
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It is not a simple subject. For example, we all know that humans are not transparent in optical region, which means that light should be absorbed and reflected, mostly on skin. However you can see that laser lat can partially go through your hand.

X-rays can go deeper into body, and they can eventually go through the body. However, humans are not completely transparent in X-ray region as well, so we can look on something inside themusing this electromagnetic region.

Absorption really depends on the mechanism of the wave- charge interaction, which depends on what material you consider. basically electromagnetic wave interacts only with electrons. Ions are much heavier, they gain little speed under the wave, so it is more difficult for them to absorb energy.

There is also another effect, scattering. It is connected with absorption and reflection, but it make sense to consider it separately in case of non-uniform matter. For example, it is light scattering which is responsible for the image blurring when we see through the hot air.
 
Another effect of EM on matter is ionization: the separation of electrons from their atoms. If the wavelength is appropriate, the absorbed EM can provide enough energy to an electron to allow it to abandon the atom.
Ionization then triggers chemical reactions. If those reactions occur in an atom in a molecule of DNA, the DNA will be altered and so will be cellular multiplication. This could even produce cancer.
Only very short wavelenghts (UV, gamma rays) will cause ionization. That is why those types of radiation can cause cancer.
 
The effect of long-term exposure to long-wave radiation (such as that produced by mobile phones), particularly to the brain, has not been conclusively determined. If there is an effect, the mechanism is probably much more subtle than those mentioned already.

Claude.
 

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