Find Force at Support Point of Diving Board

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The problem involves a diving board supported at a point with a diver standing at the free end. The objective is to determine the force at the support point, considering the weights of both the diver and the board.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of torque and the correct distances for calculating forces. There are questions about the placement of the support point and the center of mass of the board.

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Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the problem setup, particularly regarding the distances involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct placement of the support point and the center of mass of the board, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations.

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There is some confusion regarding the terminology used to describe the positions of the support point and the free end of the diving board, which may affect the calculations. The weight of the board is noted to act at its midpoint, which is relevant for torque calculations.

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A diving board of length L = 3.00 m is supported at a point a distance 1.00 m from the end, and a diver weighing 490 N stands at the free end. The diving board is of uniform cross section and weighs 295 N.

Find the force at the support point.
** Now I know net torque = 0
Suppose F1 is the force applied at the support point and F2 is the force at the end that is held down.
(F1*x_f1) - (w_diver * L) - (w_board * x_point) = 0

x_f1 = 3.0 m * {490 N/(490N + 295N)} = 1.87 m ?

--> F1(1.87 m) - (490 N)(3.0 m) - (295 N)(1.0 m) = 0 solve for F1

F1 = {(490N)(3.0 m) + (295N)(1.0 m)}/1.87 m = 944 N which is wrong

how do I find x_f1? is my formula for F1 correct?
 
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MAPgirl23 said:
A diving board of length L = 3.00 m is supported at a point a distance 1.00 m from the end, and a diver weighing 490 N stands at the free end. The diving board is of uniform cross section and weighs 295 N.

Find the force at the support point.
** Now I know net torque = 0

Ok. So you're going to find the torque about the end of the board that is held fast right?

Suppose F1 is the force applied at the support point and F2 is the force at the end that is held down.
(F1*x_f1) - (w_diver * L) - (w_board * x_point) = 0

That's fine. You're getting the torque about the end that is held fast.

x_f1 = 3.0 m * {490 N/(490N + 295N)} = 1.87 m ?

Not sure why you did this. The length of the board is 3m. The support point is 1m from the free end. So it is 2m from the unfree end. x_f1=2m (draw a picture if you haven't)

Also the weight of the board acts at the center of the board. So that is half the length of the board from the end. so x_point=1.5m

Now you should be able to solve for F1.
 
learningphysics said:
Not sure why you did this. The length of the board is 3m. The support point is 1m from the free end. So it is 2m from the unfree end. x_f1=2m (draw a picture if you haven't)
Only the original poster knows for sure, but I would have guessed that the support point was 1m from the fixed end.
 
Doc Al said:
Only the original poster knows for sure, but I would have guessed that the support point was 1m from the fixed end.

Ah... you're probably right. The OP used "end" for the support point then "free end" later. That would also make more sense I believe for a diving board.
 
but if I make x_f1 = 1 m and F1 = {(490N)(3.0 m) + (295N)(1.0 m)}/1 m = 1765 N the answer is wrong.
 
MAPgirl23 said:
but if I make x_f1 = 1 m and F1 = {(490N)(3.0 m) + (295N)(1.0 m)}/1 m = 1765 N the answer is wrong.
The weight of the board acts at its middle, not at x = 1.0m.
 
so it acts at 1.5 m (L/2 = 3.0 m/2 = 1.5 m)

is x_f1 = 1.5 therefore:
F1 = {(490N)(3.0 m) + (295N)(1.5 m)}/1 m = 1912.5 m
 
thank you for all of your help.
 

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