Solution to (D+2)(D+3)y=4t+5e^t with Initial Conditions y(0)=4, y'(0)=5

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form (D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t, with initial conditions y(0)=4 and y'(0)=5. Participants are exploring the validity of proposed solutions and the methods for finding particular solutions.

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  • Participants discuss the correctness of a proposed solution and compare it with results obtained from software like Maple. There is exploration of the concept of annihilators and how to apply them to the differential equation. Some participants express confusion about matching coefficients in the context of finding particular solutions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering different perspectives on solving the differential equation. There is an acknowledgment of mistakes and misunderstandings, particularly regarding the combination of constants in the solution process. Guidance has been provided on setting up systems of equations to solve for constants.

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Participants are working under the constraints of initial conditions and are attempting to clarify the application of annihilators in the context of the given differential equation. There is a noted challenge in matching coefficients due to the structure of the proposed particular solution.

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Solve the following differential equation:

[tex](D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t; y(0)=4, y'(0)=5[/tex]

I have the following as the answer is it correct?

[tex]y=17e^{-2t} -13e^{-3t} + \frac{4}{11}t + \frac{5}{12}e^t[/tex]
 
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You try plugging your answer back into the equation, to see if it works out right?
 
Nope.Here's what Maple gives as the general solution

[tex]\frac{d^2 y}{dx^2}+5\frac{dy}{dx}+6y=4x+5e^x[/tex] Exact solution is :

[tex]y\left( x\right) =\frac{2}{3}x-\frac{5}{9}+\frac{5}{12}e^x+C_1 e^{-3x}+C_2 e^{-2x}[/tex]

I get some nasty looking coeff.

Daniel.
 
i am way off then. by the way could MATLAB solve this problem?
 
I'm not understanding what my professor calls an annihilator. what i have is

this D.E.

[tex](D + 2)(D + 3)y = 4t + 5e^t;y(0)=4,y'(0)=5[/tex]

I need to find a differential opperator that will make the right side of this D.E.

zero. So i think that this differential opperator (annihilator) should be this.

[tex]D^2(D-1)[/tex]

So to solve this problem i need to solve this homogenous D.E. first:

[tex](D + 2)(D + 3)y=0[/tex] and its solutions are this:

[tex]y_c=C_1e^{-2t} + C_2e^{-3t}[/tex]

now i need to find the other part which involves the differential opperator. so

now i need to solve this part [tex]D^2(D-1)=0[/tex]

which yields [tex]C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t[/tex]

if all of the above is correct i need to find out what the arbitrary constants of

[tex]C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t[/tex] are

so what i do is say that this [tex]C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t[/tex] is equal to

[tex]y_p[/tex]

so now i have [tex]y_p= C_3 + tC_4 + C_5e^t[/tex]

now i find [tex]y'_p[/tex] and [tex]y''_p[/tex]

[tex]y'_p= C_4 +C_5e^t[/tex]

[tex]y''_p=C_5e^t[/tex]

now what i do is plug in all the y-sub-p's into this [tex]y'' + 5y' +6y= 4t +5e^t[/tex]

and match up the the coef. to find out what the constants are

what i get is this

[tex]12C_5e^t + 5C_4 + 6tC_4 + 6C_3= 4t + 5e^t[/tex]

now my problem is that the C-sub-4's are not the same. one of them is

multiplied by t which is a problem because i can't get the coef. to match

what have i done wrong?
 
You have this system

[tex]\left\{\begin{array}{c} 5C_{4}+6C_{3}=0\\6C_{4}=4 \end{array} \right[/tex]

Solve it.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
You have this system

[tex]\left\{\begin{array}{c} 5C_{4}+6C_{3}=0\\6C_{4}=4 \end{array} \right[/tex]

Solve it.

Daniel.


i don't see why could you elaborate?
 
RadiationX said:
[tex]12C_5e^t + 5C_4 + 6tC_4 + 6C_3= 4t + 5e^t[/tex]

That should read

[tex]12C_{5} e^{t}+6C_{4}t+\left(5C_{4}+6C_{3}\right)\equiv 5e^{t}+4t+0[/tex]

Do you see where the system i posted comes from...?

Daniel.
 
ahh! yes i see now. i made a simple mistake, but to be truthful i did not know that i could combine csub4 and csub3 but now i see why i can.
 

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