Glass mixed with iron fibres could a magnetic field effect it?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential effects of a magnetic field on fibres made from a mixture of glass and iron, particularly in the context of applications in tissue engineering. Participants explore the implications of using such materials for stretching and its impact on cell growth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Experimental/applied

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires whether a magnetic field could apply strain to a composite of iron fibres in a glass matrix and asks about relevant factors to consider.
  • Another participant suggests that factors such as fibre length, orientation, and wetting are important in the context of DFBM composites.
  • A third participant shares that their friend, a tissue engineer, is interested in the effects of stretching glass-iron fibres on cell growth, noting the specific chemical structure of the fibres and the experimental conditions, including temperature and iron concentration.
  • This participant expresses concern that a 5% concentration of iron might affect the strength of the magnetic field required for the application.
  • One reply indicates uncertainty about providing assistance and suggests contacting a regular in the Materials Engineering section for more expertise.
  • A later contribution emphasizes the lack of sufficient information to make a determination and discusses the complexity of calculating the magneto-strain tensor for new materials, suggesting that experimental validation may be necessary.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of uncertainty regarding the effects of the magnetic field on the glass-iron fibres, with no consensus reached on the specific implications or outcomes of the proposed applications.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the incomplete specification of the material's composition and structure, as well as the unresolved nature of the magnetostrictive properties of the material in question.

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Glass-iron fibres could a magnetic field effect it?

Hi,

didn't know where to post this but basically if we were to have fibres made of a mixture of glass and Iron could an application of a magnetic field be used to apply a strain?

What factors would need to be considered?

Thanks
 
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I suspect the answer is yes.

Do you mean a composite of iron fibres in a glass matrix?

I suppose the factors involved are the same as with any other DFBM composite. Things to think about include fibre length, orientation, wetting, etc.

Do you have a specific application in mind?
 
Sorry I can't give too much detail, basically a friend of mine posed the question to me (She's a tissue engineer). She basically she plans on growing cells on these glass-iron fibres and wants to determine the effect of stretching the fibres on cell growth.

She didn't give too much detail but she sketched the compound it's basically chains of phosphate bonded to oxygen which is in turn bonded to either Na, Ca-O or Fe-O where the chain is repeated.

I'm just a 3rd year undergrad in physics I don't specialise in materials science.

She plans on conducting the experiment at 37 degrees celsius and one of the concerns was that there would only be a 5% concentration of iron in the fibres. I fugured that may effect the strength of the field required.

EDIT:

I noticed the title of the thread (Itried changing it but it doesn't seem to have), sorry for the confusion, I posted the title but then I found out that the glass and iron is an actual compound making the fibre rather than glass mized with iron fibres.
 
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Ah, I'm not so sure I can help. Perhaps PM one of the regulars in the Materials Engineering section?
 
Baggio said:
Sorry I can't give too much detail, basically a friend of mine posed the question to me (She's a tissue engineer). She basically she plans on growing cells on these glass-iron fibres and wants to determine the effect of stretching the fibres on cell growth.

She didn't give too much detail but she sketched the compound it's basically chains of phosphate bonded to oxygen which is in turn bonded to either Na, Ca-O or Fe-O where the chain is repeated.

I'm just a 3rd year undergrad in physics I don't specialise in materials science.

She plans on conducting the experiment at 37 degrees celsius and one of the concerns was that there would only be a 5% concentration of iron in the fibres. I fugured that may effect the strength of the field required.

EDIT:

I noticed the title of the thread (Itried changing it but it doesn't seem to have), sorry for the confusion, I posted the title but then I found out that the glass and iron is an actual compound making the fibre rather than glass mized with iron fibres.
There's just not enough information here to make a determination. And even with a complete specification of composition and structure, doing an ab initio determination of the components of the magneto-strain tensor of a new material is a publication worthy calculation.

If the material belongs to class whose magnetostrictive properties have been documented, it may be possible to come up with a fair guess. Alternatively, one might be able to completely discount any noticeably magnetostrictive effects based on the general magnetic ordering in the material. In the absense of that, the best thing to do is the experiment itself.
 

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