Kinetic Energy Conservation in an Explosive System

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The discussion revolves around a problem in mechanics, specifically focusing on the conservation of kinetic energy and momentum in the context of an explosive event affecting a moving body. The scenario involves a mass that splits into two equal parts due to an internal explosion, with additional kinetic energy imparted to the system.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the implications of the explosion adding kinetic energy to the system and question whether momentum conservation still applies. Some discuss the relationship between initial kinetic energy and the energy added by the explosion, while others attempt to derive equations based on conservation principles.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations of the problem and attempting to clarify the relationship between kinetic energy and momentum. There is recognition of the complexity introduced by the explosion, and some participants suggest that momentum conservation remains valid despite the additional energy.

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Participants note potential assumptions regarding the nature of the explosion and the absence of external forces. There is also mention of the need to consider the center of mass in relation to momentum conservation.

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Having some problems with this question, was wondering if anyone could lend some hints/explanation.

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A body of mass 8.0kg is traveling at 2.0m/s under the influence of no external agency. At a certain instant an internal explosion occurs, splitting the body into two chunks of 4.0kg mass each; 16 joules of translational kinetic energy are imparted to the two-chunk system by the explosion. Neither chunk leaves the line of the original motion. Determined the speed and direction of motion of each of the chunks after the explosion.

Are they saying the system imparts an additional 16 joules of energy from the explosion. Because the initial kinetic energy is equal to 16 joules, they could have just said kinetic energy is conserved.

I've tried using just conservation of kinetic energy and momentum and the results show that the two pieces continue on in the same direction with the same speed of 2.0 m/s, it doesn't seem like much of an explosion.

Any help with this would be great.

Thanks.
 
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I think they are trying to say that 16 J is added to the system by the explosion (converted from potential energy (maybe chemical? not important, though)). So the kinetic energies are related by:

.5*m1*v1^2 + .5*m2*v2^2 = Ko + 16J = 32 J

and the conservation of momentum still holds:

m1*v1 + m2*v2 = M*vo = 16 Ns

That should be solvable, right?
 
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oops, I forgot my 1/2's in the energy equation. If that's right, I get 4 m/s for one piece and the other piece stays at the explosion site.

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OK; fixed above too.
 
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That's what I came up with as well, but do you think that momentum is still conserved if the explosion imparts additional kinetic energy into the system?
 
Yes. I think it's pretty common for momentum to be conserved while kinetic energy isn't (any collsions that are not completely elastic (read any real collision) comes to mind). Conservation of momentum should apply as long as there are no non-negligible external forces to deal with, which seems to be the case here.

(Oh, and I edited my last post, so you may want to reload the page).
 
If you consider the centre of mass of the two particles, it is still moving at 2m/s and therefore overall momentum is conserved.
Think of it like this; the momentum of a particle will only be conserved when no external force acts on it, the explosion is an internal force, therefore overall, momentum is conserved.
 

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