Probability of Die Landing on Value After x Days

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of a die landing on a predetermined value after a certain number of days, specifically focusing on both constant and variable probabilities over time. Participants explore different approaches and formulas related to probability theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a formula to determine the probability of rolling a specific number (e.g., 4) on a die after multiple trials, noting the basic probability of 1/6 for each roll.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating the probability of at least one success in n independent trials, expressed as 1 - (5/6)^n, and mentions that this probability approaches 1 as the number of trials increases.
  • A different participant expresses interest in a scenario where the probability of success starts at 10% and increases by 5% with each iteration, seeking a formula to express this changing probability elegantly.
  • This participant shares calculated probabilities for the first 19 iterations based on their method, indicating an asymptotic approach to certainty.
  • One participant references the law of large numbers and related fallacies, suggesting that infinite trials do not imply a loaded die, though the relevance of this point is questioned by others.
  • Another participant challenges the relevance of the law of large numbers to their inquiry, emphasizing their desire for a more elegant calculation method for their increasing probability scenario.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of certain probability concepts, such as the law of large numbers, and there is no consensus on a single elegant formula for variable probabilities. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculating changing probabilities.

Contextual Notes

Participants' calculations and proposed formulas depend on specific assumptions about the nature of the probability changes, and there are unresolved mathematical steps in deriving a formula for the increasing probability scenario.

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I'm sure this is the kind of question this forum gets a lot, but I looked at a few of the recent probability questions and they were all homework questions dealing with numerical values and such, so forgive the bland question.

If I throw a die once a day, what formula can I use to judge the probability of the die landing on a predetermined value (say a 4) after a certain number of days? It's been a while since I had any coursework on probability, so all I've got right now is a little intuition. Of course, each day there would be a 1/6 chance of the die hitting the 4, but after 6 days it seems like there should be a fairly good probability of the die having hit 4, and with even more days the probability should increase but never reach certainty. Surely there's a formula for this, could anyone point me in the right direction?
 
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Probability of success = 1/6.
Probability of failure = 5/6.

Probability of at least one success in n independent trials = 1 - probability of zero successes
= 1 - (5/6)^n. This number approaches 1 as n approaches infinity.
 
Thank you very much; that's exactly what I wanted.
 
Does anyone know if there is a single formula for if the probability changes in a set manner.

I figured out the above formula while tinkering around on my own. My goal is to figure out the probability of a given even if the chances start out at 10% then increase by 5% each time, what the given chance of the event occurring at any given iteration. To begin with I started with a flat 10% chance, and figured out the above formula. Then found this while trying to check it. I used that knowledge to calculate the given chance by hand of any particular iteration, and they are as follows for iterations 1-19. (I did round most of these)

.1 .235 .388 .541 .6787 .791155 .8747 .932 .966 .9845 ..99379 .997821 .99935 .99984 .999967 .99999512 .99999951 (1 - (2.44 x 10^-8)) then 1.

I believe I calculated all these right. I got to each of them in the same manner as doing the above equation by hand over a lot of iterations. I knew that for instance the 10% repeated probability had to approach 1 asymptotically for instance. and hand calculations showed that to be true. Once I realized I was just multiplying .9 times it self for each iteration the formula was easy to devise. The one for the growing probability is not so easy. I provided the numbers so you can check any theory you come up with. Or if someone knows a proven formula that would be awesome too. I just cannot figure out any kind of elegant formula to express the change, like i could with the flat 10%. This may be stupid easy for someone on here so I figured I'd post it. I am a philosophy major, because I am too far into change to math now. But I love mathematics which is why I am tinkering around with this. Thanks for any help you can give.
 
I do not understand how this is pertinent. For what I am trying to figure out, the probability increases conceivably until it hits a certitude of 100% chance. I already calculated the probabilities, I just feel like there has to be a more elegant way of doing it than I did. That is what I am trying to figure out.
 

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