Why do lifter's have to be assymetrical?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design of lifters, specifically the reasons for their asymmetrical configurations and the underlying principles that enable levitation. Participants explore concepts related to gravitational fields, ion wind, and the mechanics of lifters, with a focus on theoretical and conceptual understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why asymmetrical designs are preferred for lifters, suggesting it relates to the gravitational field they create.
  • Another participant dismisses the initial source as unreliable, questioning the scientific validity of the claims made.
  • A participant asserts that lifters do not create their own gravitational field, instead operating on the principle of ion wind, providing links for further reading.
  • One participant defends the initial source by noting language barriers and shares personal experience with building lifters.
  • A participant requests clarification on the concept of ion wind, indicating a need for more thorough explanations.
  • Another participant provides additional resources to explain ion wind, suggesting that it is a key concept in understanding lifter operation.

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Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the credibility of the initial source and the explanations provided. While some support the idea of ion wind as a primary mechanism, others remain skeptical about the overall understanding of lifters.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the explanations provided, particularly regarding the definitions of ion wind and gravitational fields, which remain unresolved. The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and acceptance of the concepts involved.

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I'm sure most of you have heard by now about the lifters projects around the world and if you haven't then check out http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm

I need some help in figuring out why it is better to have assymetrical designs? I know it has to do something with the gravitational field that it creates but I still don't really understand it.


Also (again in simplicity please) what is the real reason that makes the object levitate? Is it the impact momentum of the electrons on the negative plate or is it the gravitational field it creates or...?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks
 
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Sorry, dude;
Unless someone here who knows a lot more about it than I do tells me otherwise, I have to consider that to be a nut-burger site. I didn't read past the first page, but that was enough. The guy's either a crackpot or very bad at expressing scientific concepts.
 
Lifters to not create their own gravitational field. They primarily operate on the principle of ion wind:

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/ComnErr.html

http://www.americanantigravity.com/documents/Stephenson_STAIF05_Biefeld-Brown.pdf

Regards,
Maaneli
 
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well English isn't his first language so give him a break but I've made a couple lifters myself... you can also check out www.americanantigravity.com
 
hm... what exactly is ion wind? it doesn't really explain it thoroughly in that article
 
The first link explains it and so does this one:

http://www.ap.stmarys.ca/demos/content/e_and_m/ion_wind/ion_wind.html
 
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