Convergence of Series: Can You Solve This Problem?

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The discussion revolves around the convergence of the series \(\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ne^{(-nx)}\) for various values of \(x \in \mathbb{R}\). Participants explore different methods for determining convergence, including the ratio test and the integral test, while also discussing specific evaluations of the series.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the integral test for convergence, questioning for which values of \(x\) the integral would converge.
  • Others propose the ratio test as a method to determine convergence, discussing the behavior of the series for \(x > 0\), \(x = 0\), and \(x < 0\).
  • One participant mentions a specific evaluation of the series when \(x = 1\) and provides a result involving \(\sinh\), asking for clarification on the calculation.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about applying known results for geometric series to the problem at hand, particularly in relation to finding convergence conditions.
  • Some participants discuss the transformation of variables and derivatives in relation to the series, exploring how to manipulate the series into a more recognizable form.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the convergence of the series, as participants present multiple methods and interpretations without reaching a definitive conclusion. Various approaches are discussed, but uncertainty remains regarding the application and results of these methods.

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Participants express limitations in their understanding of the application of convergence tests and the manipulation of series, indicating that assumptions about convergence conditions may not be fully resolved.

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This discussion may be useful for students and enthusiasts of mathematics, particularly those interested in series convergence, mathematical analysis, and the application of convergence tests.

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For what values of [tex]x\in\mathbb{R}[/tex] does the series converge?

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ne^{(-nx)}[/tex]

I found this problem on the internet and couldn't solve it. Thanks for your help.
 
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alexmcavoy@gmail.com said:
For what values of [tex]x\in\mathbb{R}[/tex] does the series converge?

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ne^{(-nx)}[/tex]

I found this problem on the internet and couldn't solve it. Thanks for your help.

How about the integral test for convergence? For what values of x would the required integral converge?
 
That is what I am having trouble with. I actually got this problem off of the MIT OpenCourseWare website under "Analysis I" and am looking to see how someone would solve this.

When I evaluate [tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ne^{(-n)}[/tex] on my calculator, I get [tex]\frac{1}{4(\sinh{(\frac{1}{2})})^{2}}[/tex]. How was that calculated?
 
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You could use the ratio test, though the integral test will also work. Have you tried to apply either?
 
Well without getting too much into detail of proving theorems to help with proving convergence. Think about what the sum would look like when x>0, when x=0 and when x<0.
 
alexmcavoy@gmail.com said:
When I evaluate [tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}ne^{(-n)}[/tex] on my calculator, I get [tex]\frac{1}{4(\sinh{(\frac{1}{2})})^{2}}[/tex]. How was that calculated?

It's related to a geometric series. Can you find

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}nx^n[/tex]

(where it converges of course-actually if you can find where this guy converges then you should be able to convert back to your original problem without difficulty)
 
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I guess I can't. How would you do this? I know the [tex]\frac{1}{1-x}[/tex] answer for the value of an infinite series, but don't know how to apply it to this particular problem.

I see that if I did find that value, let's say [tex]x=a[/tex], then I could replace [tex]x[/tex] with [tex]e^{(-x)}[/tex] and solve getting [tex]x=-\ln{(a)}[/tex].

Would this be correct?
 
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Ok I tried this:

[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{|(n+1)x^{(n+1)}|}{|nx^{(n)}|}=x[/tex] so [tex]-1<x<1[/tex]. So now I replace [tex]x[/tex] with [tex]e^{(-x)}[/tex]. This is where I am stuck because I can't solve it. What did I do incorrectly?

Thanks.
 
hello all

well to find out for what values this series converges for is not particularly hard its just a straight application of the ratio test the same we would apply it to the power series to find the radius of convergence

[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{(n+1)e^{(nx)}}{ ne^{(n+1)x}}=\frac{1}{e^x}<1[/tex]
[tex]1<e^{x}[/tex]
[tex]\log 1<\log e^{x}[/tex]
and so therefore the series converges for all [tex]x>0[/tex]
 
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alexmcavoy@gmail.com said:
I guess I can't. How would you do this?

Alex, you can do this.

Let:

[tex]w=\frac{1}{e^a}[/tex]

and:

[tex]z=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}w^n[/tex]

Now, you know what that sum is right? It's an expression in terms of w.

Now take the derivative of both expressions with respect to w, adjust the sum to look like what you want and you're done.
 
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Doing that I come up with [tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}nw^n=\frac{w}{(1-w)^2}\quad 0\leq w<1[/tex]. Is this correct?
 

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