What are the limitations of directional derivatives at (0,0)?

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The discussion revolves around the limitations of directional derivatives for the function f(x,y) defined piecewise, particularly at the point (0,0). Participants are exploring the conditions under which these derivatives exist and the implications for the continuity of the function.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to compute the directional derivative at (0,0) and are questioning the existence of this derivative based on their calculations. There is also discussion about the continuity of the function and whether certain limits suffice to demonstrate this property.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants expressing confusion about the calculations and the implications of their results. There are indications that different approaches may yield varying results, suggesting a lack of consensus on the existence of the directional derivatives.

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Some participants are considering the use of polar coordinates to analyze the problem, and there is a mention of the need to check assumptions regarding the limits involved in the calculations.

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Let [itex]f(x,y) = \begin{array}{cc}<br /> \frac{xy}{\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}} &, (x,y) \neq(0,0) \\<br /> 0 & ,(x,y) = (0,0) \\<br /> \end{array}[/itex]

Show that the directional derivatives at (0,0) in directions [itex]a\mathbf{i} + b\mathbf{j}[/itex] with [itex]a\neq 0[/itex] and [itex]b\neq 0[/itex], do not exist.

Let [itex]\mathbf{u} = a\mathbf{i} + b\mathbf{j}[/itex]

[itex] \begin{align*}<br /> D_{\mathbf{u}}f(0,0) & = \lim_{h\rightarrow 0}\frac{f(0+ ha,0 + hb) - f(0,0)}{h}<br /> & = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{\frac{h^2ab}{\sqrt{h^2a^2 + h^2b^2}}}{h}<br /> = \frac{ab}{\sqrt{a^2 + b^2}}<br /> \end{align*}[/itex]

which if I'm not mistaken, exists. How do I show that this doesn't exist? Also, in order to show that f(x,y) is everywhere continuous, will it suffice to say that xy/sqrt(x^2 + y^2) is continuous when (x,y) != 0 and that the limit of xy/sqrt(x^2 + y^2) as (x,y) tends to (0,0) along the x-axis is 0?
 
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Anyone have any ideas? I'm really confused about this.
 
I'm not sure about this, but maybe they want you to take the directional derivative the usual way (dot the gradient into the direction vector), and then take the limit as (x,y)->0. I tried this, and it seemed like I got two different answers depending on how I approached 0. I think this would mean the derivative doesn't exist, even though both answers were finite. If you want to try this, I used polar coordinates and I think it made it easier.
 
[itex] \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{\frac{h^2ab}{\sqrt{h^2a^2 + h^2b^2}}}{h}<br /> = \frac{ab}{\sqrt{a^2 + b^2}}[/itex]

You sure about that?
 

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