Is True Levitation Beyond Our Reach?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of true levitation, specifically the idea of floating without any physical attachments, akin to fictional representations like the Jedi force. Participants explore various theories, technologies, and speculative ideas related to achieving levitation, including magnetic forces, antigravity, and exotic matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that true levitation would require a force that opposes gravity without being a traditional force, suggesting concepts like orbiting as a form of levitation.
  • Others mention existing technologies such as MagLev trains and superconducting electromagnets as potential methods for achieving levitation.
  • A participant introduces the idea of using dark energy as a form of antigravity, suggesting that if it could be harnessed, it might allow for levitation.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of using antigravity or exotic matter, including questions about containment and the strength of repulsive forces.
  • Some participants clarify the distinction between antimatter and exotic matter, emphasizing that the latter may have properties that could be relevant to levitation.
  • Examples of commercially available levitation devices, such as magnetic globes and spinning tops, are provided to illustrate that certain forms of levitation are already achievable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and methods of achieving true levitation, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the nature of the forces involved. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing ideas presented.

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Participants highlight various assumptions regarding the nature of forces required for levitation, the definitions of antigravity and exotic matter, and the limitations of current technologies. The discussion does not resolve these complexities.

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its a rather simple question and would like to hear your thoughts. but i mean like actual levetation, sort of like jedi force but not exactly. i also don't mean like jet pack or giant fans, i basically mean floating with nothing attached
 
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So you mean, something to oppose the force of gravity, but not a force. Maybe if you put yourself in orbit, you'd be levitating the same distance from the ground. Otherwise you just negated in the third line what you asked for in the second line.
 
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its a rather simple question and would like to hear your thoughts. but i mean like actual levetation, sort of like jedi force but not exactly. i also don't mean like jet pack or giant fans, i basically mean floating with nothing attached

MagLev Trains
 
That would require attaching large magnets.
 
http://www.hfml.ru.nl/levitation-movies.html

I found this website by typing "Levitation frog" into google.
 
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I think that the best possibility of achieving any sort of levitation would be through superconducting electromagnets, such as those the MagLev trains employ. Eventually, room-temperature superconducting electromagnets may be found, which will make experimenting with more things economically feasible.
 
I know strong magnetic fields "have already" been used to levetate even objects made out of rubber. But other than that, all you need is some sort of force which will overtrhow gravity. Its not magic; science. Of course it is posible :)
 
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I know strong magnetic fields "have already" been used to levetate even objects made out of rubber. But other than that, all you need is some sort of force which will overtrhow gravity. Its not magic; science. Of course it is posible :)
You need an antigravity force.

Now, since the distant Supernovae type Ia seen in distant galaxies are fainter than predicted it has been generally accepted that there is a cosmological antigravity effect - normally attributed to Dark Energy - that causes acceleration of the universe's expansion.

The science of cosmology normally applies the physics 'down here' to explain what is going on 'up there'; but here perhaps we might be able to apply what is going on 'out there' to understand what might be possible 'down here'.

So all you need to do is to 'bottle' some of this 'Dark Energy' and heh presto... antigravity!

Garth!
 
Well, with antigravity, or negative energy (exotic matter), all it does is always fall up. It's repelled by ordinary matter. Trying to use something like this would probably be a little difficult, since it's repulsive against you, the ground, and everything else. Can it be contained with limited amounts so that it can be efficiently used to levitate a mass? Also, how strong is it in its repulsion against ordinary matter? (It must be strong enough for physicists to consider using it in the highly unstable environment of wormholes.)
 
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I know antimatter annihilates with matter when the two come in contact. I haven't read of documented antigravity, matter that repells gravity by nature. Would anyone have a website for me to look at?
 
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Simple Levitation

You may be thinking of levitation through councious thought or some such thing. (From the mystical Jedi reference). Because simple levitation is a no brainer, I have a globe that "levitates" picked it up for 20 bucks. It uses an adjustable strength electro-magnet in order to make the "sweet spot" large enough to be plausible. The sweet spot being the are in which the magnetic attraction is enough to hold it up but not strong enough to pull it up. As you may know if you played with magnets as a child on ""steady"" magnets the balance point is infinitely small and therefore unplausible. With electro-magnets its childs play. So yes, of course levitation is possible.
 
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There is also the levitron which is a spinning "ceramic" magnetic top that levitates above a base with four magnets set in each corner. The "sweet spot" here is created only when the top is spinning between specific rpm's. The price of this baby is around 35 bucks. Super Physics Toy !
 

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