Is everything in the universe connected to eachother?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of whether everything in the universe is interconnected, exploring both direct and indirect connections between objects, such as a person's hand and distant galaxies. Participants touch on various interpretations of "connection," including gravitational forces, quantum entanglement, and philosophical perspectives on cosmic interconnection.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that there is an indirect connection between objects due to gravitational forces, though the effects may be negligible.
  • Others argue that a more direct connection, akin to quantum entanglement, is what is being sought, though this remains undefined.
  • A participant mentions the Mach principle and its relevance to the discussion of cosmic connection.
  • One participant describes a metaphor of interconnectedness using the analogy of dominos, suggesting that movements can have cascading effects.
  • Another participant references philosophical ideas about the universe's interconnectedness, citing David Bohm's theories and the implications of quantum nonlocality.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of experiences that make individuals feel connected to the universe, questioning whether such experiences are hallucinations or have a basis in reality.
  • Some participants note that definitions of "connected" vary, which affects the interpretation of the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views on the nature of connection in the universe, with no consensus reached on what constitutes a direct connection or the implications of gravitational forces.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes various assumptions about gravitational effects and definitions of connection, which remain unresolved. The complexity of quantum mechanics and philosophical interpretations also contribute to the ambiguity of the topic.

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Is everything in the universe connected to each other?

For instance, is there a connection between my hand and some galaxy far far away?
 
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Yeah... indirectly. So if you move your hand really really fast it won't do anything.
 
Tigron-X said:
Yeah... indirectly. So if you move your hand really really fast it won't do anything.

Are u talking about the speed of light when u say my hand won't do anything?

With 'connected', i mean more like a direct connection, like quantum entanglement.
 
I was talking in more practical terms since you can't move your hand that fast, not to mention that your hand would no longer be considered a hand at that point. But anyhow, you're connected by interacting magnetic fields of various scales. Even if you moved at the speed of light, the magnitude of energy you would have to disburse in order to get there would have to be greater than any magnetic field that stands in your way because otherwise you'll be absorbed. Meaning, you're connected, but your hand can't produce a wave length strong enough to reach that galaxy.

In retrospect, if you pictured an enormous amount of strings of different lengths and sizes [some very thick and some very thin] all entangled together in various knots on a single string that twisted every which way and more, you'd be like the size of a single stitch that a dust mite made if dust mites could stitch. However, you can probably invent a machine that can produce the power need to get you there at the push of a button, but that doesn't seem like what you were looking for...right?
 
Mach says yes. What's the current thinking on the Mach principal?
 
There's a very very very small force of gravity between your hand and that galaxy. Depends on your definition of "connected" and at what point do negligable things make connections. I got into a huge debate with my friend on a similar topic to this.

Jameson
 
"When to the new eyes of thee
All things by Immortal power
Near or far
Hiddenly
To each other link-ed are
That thou cans't stir a flower
Without troubling a star
... Seek no more
Pass the gates of Lutharny
Tread the region Elenor"

From 'The Mistress Of Vision - Francis Thompson
 
im a retard but - each object has a gravitational force - so logically the slightest movement of this force would have a slight effect on the next object and the next and so on and so forth. a good metaphor for what I am saying would be to call it dominos lol. you only move one domino yet all the others have a reaction.
 
izzie said:
im a retard but - each object has a gravitational force - so logically the slightest movement of this force would have a slight effect on the next object and the next and so on and so forth. a good metaphor for what I am saying would be to call it dominos lol. you only move one domino yet all the others have a reaction.

I guess this is true. I was wondering if there is a more 'direct' connection between all of the universe.

I am asking this, because sometimes people have a rare experience, in which they feel as if they are connected to the entire universe, as if their body and mind expand beyond the horizon. Some people say that these things are hallucinations, so i am wondering if this experience actually matches what is known about the nature of this universe.

If this experience indeed is compatible with the nature of the universe, then why would one consider it a hallucination?

Similarly, if one sees a car, and this car is actually there, why would one consider this a hallucination?
 
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Depends on your definition of "more direct". All mass equals energy and all energy exerts a force. Your hand never "directly" contacts the keyboard because of the repulsion of the keyboard and your fingertips.
 
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Cosmic interconnection

PIT2 said:
Is everything in the universe connected to each other?

For instance, is there a connection between my hand and some galaxy far far away?


That seems to be a current line of thought especially among David Bohm followers. Bohm wrote a book called "Wholeness and the Implicate Orde" (Very complicated with deep mathematics). He makes the claim that the entire universe is connected at some unseen level.

The idea that the universe was all connected before the big bang is widely accepted. The double slit experiment and quantum nonlocality also reinforces quantum interconnection.
 
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Jameson said:
There's a very very very small force of gravity between your hand and that galaxy. Depends on your definition of "connected" and at what point do negligable things make connections. I got into a huge debate with my friend on a similar topic to this.

Jameson

That's only if were correct on our theories about gravity :)
 
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So something is correct if and only if it is correct?

Gotcha.
 

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