Solve Rate of Convergence Problems Easily

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The discussion revolves around solving problems related to rates of convergence, particularly involving limits of trigonometric and logarithmic functions. Participants seek insights and methods for determining convergence rates in specific examples.

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  • One participant expresses uncertainty about solving convergence problems, specifically for \(\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sin(1/n)\) and \(\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} \sin(1/n^2)\), noting the book's requirement for a rate in the form \(1/n^p\).
  • Another participant mentions progress using the Maclaurin polynomial but struggles with \(\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty} [\ln(n+1) - \ln(n)]\), arriving at an unsatisfactory result of \(2^{-n}\) and considering the need to keep more terms.
  • A third participant references the limit \(\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{\sin(x)}{x} = 1\) and suggests applying this to \(\sin(1/n)\) to infer about the rate of convergence, and also provides a hint for analyzing \(\sin(1/n^2)\).
  • A fourth participant requests tutorials or links related to the topic, indicating a desire for additional resources.

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The discussion reflects a lack of consensus, with participants exploring different methods and approaches to determine rates of convergence without reaching a definitive agreement on solutions or techniques.

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Participants express varying levels of understanding and progress, with some relying on specific mathematical tools like Maclaurin series while others seek foundational insights. There are unresolved aspects regarding the application of limits and the adequacy of terms retained in approximations.

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I'm not sure how to solve these problems. The example given in the book does not use trig functions. Any insight into how I solve these would be helpful.

Find the following rates of convergence.
[tex] \lim_{n\rightarrow infinity} sin(1/n) = 0[/tex]
My thought would be to do the following
[tex] |sin(1/n) - 0| <= 1[/tex]
But the book says to get a rate in the form [tex]1/n^p[/tex]

The following also gives me trouble.
[tex] \lim_{n\rightarrow infinity} sin(1/n^2) = 0[/tex]
which seems like it should converge faster than the the first one.
 
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I made some progress by taking the maclaurin polynomial and only keeping the first couple terms. I can't get anything satisfactory for this one though
[tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow infinity} [ln(n+1) - ln(n)] = 0[/tex]
I get to an answer of 2-n or so, maybe I should keep more terms.
Anybody help would be appreciated.
 
Do you know that [tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow 0}\frac{sin(x)}{x} = 1[/tex]? If you let x= 1/n, that's the same as [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}\frac{sin(1/n)}{1/n}= 1[/tex]. What does that tell you about the rate of convergence?

To do sin(1/n2), look at [tex]\frac{sin(1/n^2}{1/n^2}[/tex]
 
im searching for tutorials on this section particularly...
any links?
 

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