How does a heat to energy converter work?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of a "heat to energy converter," specifically focusing on how heat can be transformed into electrical energy. Participants explore various devices and methods that might achieve this conversion, including thermoelectric devices, thermocouples, and solar panels. The conversation touches on theoretical and practical aspects of energy conversion, as well as efficiency considerations.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the existence of a "heat to energy converter" and suggest it might be a single device.
  • A participant mentions that a Peltier device could generate a potential difference with a temperature difference, though it may not produce significant current.
  • There is speculation about the intended meaning of "heat to electrical energy," particularly in the context of powering a computer.
  • Various methods for converting heat to electrical energy are proposed, including thermocouples, thermionic converters, Stirling engines, and steam engines.
  • Participants discuss the efficiency of thermionic converters for low-wattage applications, noting the need for inverters for larger systems.
  • Solar panels are mentioned, with a distinction made between photovoltaic cells and solar thermal systems, which utilize heat to generate electricity.
  • One participant raises the issue of entropy and its impact on the efficiency of converting heat to electrical energy, particularly in relation to boilers and turbines.
  • Another participant argues that heat is not entirely useless, as it contributes to global warming and is utilized in various power generation methods, albeit inefficiently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the methods and efficiency of converting heat to electrical energy. There is no consensus on a single device or method that qualifies as a "heat to energy converter," and participants express differing opinions on the challenges and feasibility of such conversions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the efficiency of various methods and the role of entropy in energy conversion processes. There are also limitations in the definitions and assumptions regarding what constitutes a "heat to energy converter."

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"Heat to energy converter"

Does anyone know what this might be lol. Someone said they used a "heat to energy converter" to make electricity. Is there a such thing or am i going to have to beat someone down...
 
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Boiler and turbine?
 
it was a single device i believe. Somethign that wouldn't seem insanely odd attached to a computer...
 
I thing a Peltier (theromelectric) device will produce a potential difference when there is a temperature difference applied to the two sides. I do not think it will produce a lot of current.
 
oh hey yah, your right... they weren't talking about that though or they would have said a peltier and not a "heat to energy converter". I wonder if that would work without having to switch anything around...
 
Since when is heat not energy?
 
I assume the guy meant heat -> electrical energy because he was using the end result to power a computer.
 
Pengwuino said:
I assume the guy meant heat -> electrical energy because he was using the end result to power a computer.
Ah, well then... you could use thermocouples, thermionic converters, Sterling engines, steam engines... Thermionic converters, at the last time I looked into the matter, were the most efficient method of obtaining low-wattage DC electricity. That would be ideal for powering a laptop for sure; running a desktop unit would take an inverter in the circuit, as far as I know, unless you bypass the power supply and feed directly into the low-voltage system.
 
what about solar panels or something like that?
 
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Mariko said:
what about solor panels or something like that?
There are 2 kinds of solar panels. Photovoltaic cells are based upon light, not heat. Photons knock electrons for a loop, and electricity results. The kind of solar panel that you would use to heat a home or run a generator is based upon heating up the working fluid (usually water) and either using the heat directly (to warm your house) or using it secondarily to run a piston or turbine setup that turns a generator.
 
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sorry about the typo Solar not solor anyhow glad you understood! nice info to know Danger,thx.
 
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Someone once told me that heat was often difficult to convert into electrical energy because of entropy. I never undersood at which point you would encounter this if you tried to apply a boiler/turbine. (There was an enormous amount of heat being pump out the back of our physics department from the air conditioning on a hot day, all of it totally useless).
 
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jackle said:
ysics department from the air conditioning on a hot day, all of it totally useless).
It wasn't totally useless; you were contributing to global warming! (As one who, today, has to wear a sweater and jacket to work, I'm all for it.) All coal, gas, oil, nuclear, and solar power generating stations use heat to create electricity. It's inefficient, for sure (nuclear is the best), but certainly not difficult.
 

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