Relation between price and time in the sharemarket/futures markets

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The discussion centers on the relationship between price and time in share markets and futures markets, exploring various predictive methods and mathematical models relevant to stock evolution and economic theories. Participants share their knowledge of different analytical approaches and seek further information on the topic.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the existence of a relationship between price and time in share and futures markets.
  • Another participant suggests that statistical methods, both linear and non-linear, can be used for predictions in the share market, referencing macro-economic and economic statistics textbooks.
  • A participant mentions the Elliot and Gann methods of prediction and inquires about time/price analysis methods related to these approaches.
  • One response suggests that the original questions might be better suited for applied computing forums rather than social sciences or economics discussions.
  • Another participant expresses difficulty in understanding stock evolution and requests information on new mathematical models currently in use.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of starting with basic economic models, such as the Neo-classical model and the Solow Growth Model, when discussing income predictions and stock evolution.
  • Additional models like Ramsay-Cass-Koopman are mentioned, along with various applications of dynamic programming, optimization techniques, and data mining algorithms in economic modeling.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the relationship between price and time, with some advocating for statistical and predictive methods while others emphasize foundational economic models. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives on the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for a clearer understanding of basic economic concepts and models before delving into more complex predictions and analyses. There is also a noted distinction between stock evolution and capital stock evolution, which may affect the interpretation of related models.

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is there any relation between price and time in the sharemarket/futures markets ect?
 
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Statistical methods (linear and non-linear predictions) can be used to predict the future share market, which i think has been quite carefully written in macro-economic textbooks and economic statistics textbooks. However,...

There are more on this topic but first of all, tell me what you are doing.
 
elliot and Gann

All i know is stuff about Elliot and Gann methods of prediction, and i was wondering if there was any time/price analysis methods (although gann is kind-of-one). What do you know about them? Where can you learn them?
 
I am sorry, you questions can be best answered in google groups ABOUT APPLIED COMPUTING's rather than in social sciences or economics forums.

Good luck, and as a final note, google is your friend, she is just a click away.
 
google?

whereabout in google do i find this and is it a forum?
 
Hello, I now run into a similar problem but about stock evolution which is quite hard to me since I am not an economics student and I still haven't been able to grasp the meaning of its equations yet.
Could anyone tell me some new mathematical models that are in use right on this kind of fascinating topic I am presently interested in?
Thanks a lot for your help ?
 
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hey, you wanted to learn about economics. So read about it! :biggrin:
 
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Emieno said:
Hello, I now run into a similar problem but about stock evolution which is quite hard to me since I am not an economics student and I still haven't been able to grasp the meaning of its equations yet.
Could anyone tell me some new mathematical models that are in use right on this kind of fascinating topic I am presently interested in?
Thanks a lot for your help ?
Hah...:)
Ok, I think you are contradicting the first explanation with your second question,
These things that are to be more understandable should be started with the basic models, i.e the so-called Neo-classical model or well-known Solow Growth Model, especially if income predictions are the main topic of the discussion. It is not stock evolution as mentioned but evolution of capital stock which I think is pretty different in meaning anyway...Another model you might find yourself interested is Ramsay-Cass-Koopman, all of which are mostly related to investment together with growth theories, and sure there are a lot of applications using dynamic programming, optimizations with GA, datamining algorithms, neural network etc to prove which one is the best model, which plan gives best benefit...and even explain the reasons why there is a big difference between incomes of various people from countries to countries by mathematical models and simulated graphs..
 
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