Calculate Flux of Vector Field F through Unit Sphere | Divergence Theorem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the flux of the vector field F(x,y,z)=xi + y^2j - zk through the unit sphere using the Divergence Theorem. Participants are examining different methods and their validity in the context of vector calculus.

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  • Participants discuss two methods for calculating flux: one using the Divergence Theorem and the other attempting to apply a line integral approach. There are questions about the correctness of both methods and the regions of integration being used.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's methods, suggesting that both approaches may be incorrect. There is ongoing exploration of the correct regions for integration and the appropriate application of the Divergence Theorem.

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There is confusion regarding the use of spherical coordinates and the proper conversion of variables when applying the Divergence Theorem. Participants are also questioning the integration limits and the definitions involved in calculating flux.

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Hey can you guys check my answer.

Question: Use the Divergence Theorem to calculate the Flux of the vector field F(x,y,z)=xi + y^2j - zk through the unit sphere centered at the origin with the outward orientation

Solution: div(F) = 1 + 2y - 1 = 2y
Flux = [tex]\int_{W} div(F) dV = \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{1} 2y \ dxdydz = \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{1} 2y \ dydz = \int_{0}^{1} 1 \ dz = 1[/tex]

So for another method would I have to use [tex]r=x^2 + y^2 + z^2[/tex] obtain the [tex]dr=2x + 2y + 2z[/tex] and do [tex]\int_{R} F dr = \int_{S} (xi + y^2j -zk)(2x+2y+2z)dA=\int_{S} (2x^2 + 2y^3 - 2z^2)dA = \int_{0}^{1} \int_{0}^{1} 2/3 + 2y^3 - 2z^2 \ dydz = \int_{0}^{1} 2/3 + 1/2 - 2z^2 dz = 2/3 + 1/2 - 2/3 = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

Is this method incorrect or was the first one incorrect? Are they both wrong? :confused:
 
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ermm... wouldn't it be easiest to use spherical coordinates?


edit: and in that second method, why are you calculating a line integral?

gauss' theorem doesn't have line integrals in there at all.

look up what gauss' theorem tell you...

i imagine you wanted to solve the problem the easy (integrating the divergence) way and the harder (what integrating the divergence is equal to :wink: ) way.


so to answer your question... both methods are incorrect! :eek:
 
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yeah, the way you have written the limits of integration, you are taking the divergence of that vector field through the unit cube in your first method. (haven't bothered with your second method--get your first one fixed!)
 
Do you have any idea what regions you're supposed to be integrating over, for either calculation?
 
Hurkyl said:
Do you have any idea what regions you're supposed to be integrating over, for either calculation?

and is it just me or is he trying to use stokes' theorem in that second attempt?

:eek:

edit: no...closer look tells me that... it's not even that.

your second method is way off base.


look back at your textbook and see the two ways of calculating flux.
 
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The second method is surely supposed to be the definition of flux: [itex]\iint_{\delta R} \vec{F} \cdot \hat{n} \, dA[/itex].
 
Hurkyl said:
The second method is surely supposed to be the definition of flux: [itex]\iint_{\delta R} \vec{F} \cdot \hat{n} \, dA[/itex].

yeah, that's the other--probably harder--way to do the problem. except... it looks like he was trying to use a line integral or...something. :confused:
 
Ok I just realized my mistake for divergence method ( I hope )

div F = 2y

Should the flux be: [tex]\int_{W} div(F) \ dV =[/tex]

[tex]\int_{-1}^{1} \int_{-sqrt(1-x^2)}^{sqrt(1-x^2)} \int_{-sqrt(1-x^2-y^2)}^{sqrt(1-x^2-y^2)} 2y \ dzdydx[/tex]
 
And in spherical coordinates:

Flux = [tex]\int_{0}^{2pi} \int_{0}^{pi} \int_{0}^{1} 2y \ p^2 \ sin(phi) \ dp \ dphi \ dtheta[/tex]
 
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Yah, but don't forget you should convert y to spherical coordinates too.
 
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that would be 2y ->> 2(p)sin(theta)sin(phi) ?
 
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Because in spherical coordinates

x= ρcosθsinφ
y= ρsinθsinφ
z= ρcosφ
 
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yeah, good going.
 

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