Psychopathic Bosses: Is This the Way to Get Ahead in Industry?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the role of psychopathic traits in leadership within the industry, questioning whether such characteristics are beneficial for success. It references an article from Fast Company Magazine and explores the implications of having psychopathic leaders in corporate environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that psychopathic leaders are necessary for motivating employees and driving results.
  • Others express concern that true psychopaths, as described in the article, prioritize their self-interest over the company's well-being, potentially leading to corporate ruin.
  • A participant highlights the distinction between psychopathy and sociopathy, referencing Jeffrey Dahmer to illustrate differences in behavior and charm.
  • There is a suggestion that societal mechanisms to remove harmful executives are viewed as morally unjustifiable, allowing such individuals to thrive in leadership roles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views on the necessity and impact of psychopathic traits in leadership roles.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes varying definitions of psychopathy and sociopathy, and the implications of these definitions on the perception of leadership qualities. There are unresolved assumptions about the moral implications of leadership styles and the effectiveness of current corporate governance mechanisms.

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Is this the way to get ahead in industry?

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OF COURSE they're bloody psychopaths!
Otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to get us slouchers off our behinds and actually deserve a salary.
 
We NEED psychopaths of that kind to lead us. Sometimes people need to be ruthless and we need leaders. (well... You do :P)
 
arildno said:
OF COURSE they're bloody psychopaths!
Otherwise, they wouldn't have been able to get us slouchers off our behinds and actually deserve a salary.

Nerro said:
We NEED psychopaths of that kind to lead us. Sometimes people need to be ruthless and we need leaders. (well... You do :P)

It appears that you guys didn't read the article. By Psychopath, it is not referring to hard-driving, no-nonsense types with big egos, but with real psychos. Those people don't care one whit about the company, but rather with themselves only. They'll drive a company to ruin to enrich themselves. In fact, they usually get a thrill from the challenge of their actions. The article compares these with serial killers in many ways, for example, they are great con-men. The have the knack of being able to talk and charm their way into peoples confidence; to get peoples trust, while having none in return (like J. Dahmer). Is that what you advocate? Examples given were Bernard Ebbers (Worldcom) and Andrew Fastow (Enron). What the article brought to my mind was Hitler.

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Jeffrey Dahmer was a sociopath, rather than a psychopath. He was not particularly charming in his outward demeanor, and quite uncharming in his private life.


And yes, I do get your point. Since any sort of societal mechanism of weeding out unpalatable executives is regarded by a wide majority as morally unjustifiable to put into action, these disgusting individuals will still get the positions they want in order to pester and harass the lives of decent folk.
 
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