Why Does Placing a Bag Over a Debit Card Work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of placing a bag over a debit card to enhance its readability by card scanners. Participants explore various theories and observations related to the physics and mechanics of card scanning, including the role of the magnetic stripe and the interaction with different types of readers.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the effectiveness of placing a bag over a debit card may relate to the physical interaction between the card and the scanner, potentially addressing surface irregularities.
  • One participant mentions that the fault may lie with the reader rather than the card, proposing that some readers are more sensitive to imperfections.
  • Another participant argues that the magnetic stripe must be very close to the scanning head for a successful read, implying that a bag's thickness could be too great for effective scanning.
  • A participant recounts a personal experience where a bag was used successfully to read their card at a specific location, indicating that this method appears to work in practice despite uncertainty about the underlying reasons.
  • There is a suggestion that low-level magnetic errors on the stripe could confuse sensitive readers, and that the bag might help by reducing signal strength to allow only the main encoding to be detected.
  • One participant shares information from a card scanner company, stating that the plastic can help even out the magnetic stripe, and notes variability in card manufacturing quality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness and mechanics of using a bag over a debit card, with no consensus reached on the exact reasons for its success or the underlying physics involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions about the interaction between the card, the bag, and the scanner, but these assumptions remain unresolved. There is also mention of variability in card manufacturing and reader sensitivity that may influence outcomes.

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Could someone explain why putting a shopping bag over a debit car make it readable for the scanner? I've always wonder why this is, and I'm almost certain it has to do with physics.
 
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Hybird said:
Could someone explain why putting a shopping bag over a debit car make it readable for the scanner?
I've never heard of that trick, but I know of a few instances of cellophane tape being applied. From what I've seen, the fault usually lies in the reader, not the card itself. Cards work some places and not others, so I suspect that some readers have more discrimination than others and are more sensitive to imperfections. I thought that the tape might help to stabilize micro-fractures in the magnetic material, but a bag wouldn't do that. Maybe it just covers surface irregularities that would cause the card to 'skip' a bit due to uneven contact with the reader slot.
 
The magneitc stipe must be very close to the scanning head to make
a successful read. Even a bag's thickness is too far away.
 
Antiphon said:
The magneitc stipe must be very close to the scanning head to make
a successful read. Even a bag's thickness is too far away.

No this happens to me quite regularly. My card works everywhere except at the 7/11 just down the road. Everytime I go there the guy behind the counter gets a plastic shopping bag, puts it over my card and presto, it goes through. I don't have any idea why, but this trick certainly does work.
 
Kazza_765 said:
No this happens to me quite regularly. My card works everywhere except at the 7/11 just down the road. Everytime I go there the guy behind the counter gets a plastic shopping bag, puts it over my card and presto, it goes through. I don't have any idea why, but this trick certainly does work.

Oh I see. I had it backwards.

It's likely that there are low-level magnetic errors creeping onto the
stripe which is fooling a sensitive reader. By reducing the strength of the
signal, only the main encoding is detected.
 
Oh I see. I had it backwards.

Did you hear the one about the experimentalist who compiled his recent data in graph form to show his more theoretically inclined colleague?

The theoretician said ''this data makes perfect sense...we would expect to see that hump there...and that flat section is right where it should be...".

The experimentalist says "Oh dear, that graph is upside down, let me help you orient it". Without skipping a beat the theoretician continued "...and this concave region is just what we would expect from..." :smile:
 
I haven't heard the joke but I've lived it more than once!
 
I use a card scanner in my shop, and was told by the company, that the plastic evens out the strip. They told me it has to do with the manafacter of the cards, some just wear better then others. I have noticed that to be true.
 

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