Why Do We Feel Weightless in Orbit But Not on Earth?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the differences in sensations experienced during free-fall on Earth compared to those in orbit, particularly focusing on why astronauts may not feel the same stomach lurching sensation as individuals falling near the Earth. The conversation touches on physiological acclimation, space sickness, and personal experiences related to falling and weightlessness.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that acclimation to free-fall may explain why astronauts feel fine in orbit, as they adjust to the sensation over time.
  • Others note that space sickness is unpredictable among astronauts, with no clear indicators of who will experience it.
  • A participant mentions that visual stimuli and physical situations may influence feelings of discomfort, citing personal experiences with heights and movement in different environments.
  • One participant compares sensations felt during skydiving to those experienced in orbit, noting that they do not feel the same discomfort while skydiving.
  • Another participant highlights that skydivers typically reach terminal velocity, which may reduce the sensation of falling compared to astronauts in free-fall.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the reasons behind the sensations experienced during free-fall, with no consensus on the factors influencing these experiences. The unpredictability of space sickness and the role of acclimation remain contested topics.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve personal anecdotes that may not generalize to all individuals. The relationship between visual stimuli, physical sensations, and psychological factors is not fully resolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in the physiological effects of weightlessness, space travel, and personal experiences related to free-fall may find this discussion relevant.

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how come when we fall near the earth, our stomachs lurch, but astronauts in their free-fall state out in orbit feel fine?
 
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I'd say that it has to do more with acclimation than anything else. On Earth we generally don't fall long enough to get used to the sensation. In orbit the body just adjusts to the new "norm" and eventually just ignores it.
 
daveed said:
how come when we fall near the earth, our stomachs lurch, but astronauts in their free-fall state out in orbit feel fine?

Some astronauts do get space-sickness. Last I heard, in spite of a fair amount of research, nobody has been able to predict which ones will get space-sick and which one's won't. One might think that the short duration free-fall flights in the "vomit comet" would help screen out astronauts that were prone to space-sickness, but apparently this doesn't actually work.

This is frome a usenet posting from a usually reliable source:

http://yarchive.net/space/science/spacesickness.html
 
pervect said:
nobody has been able to predict which ones will get space-sick and which one's won't. One might think that the short duration free-fall flights in the "vomit comet" would help screen out astronauts that were prone to space-sickness, but apparently this doesn't actually work.
This might involve visual stimulae as well as physical situations. I, for instance, am absolutely terrified of heights but will do anything in an aeroplane. There are no reference lines to the ground, so it doesn't feel like being 'high'. Low-g in a plane feels perfectly natural (barely noticeable), but it bugs the hell out of me in an elevator or in those instances when my car leaves the ground briefly. I would expect that to be worse in a space-station environment, where every movement makes your body act like a gyroscope and things that should be on the ground are floating around your head.
 
daveed said:
how come when we fall near the earth, our stomachs lurch, but astronauts in their free-fall state out in orbit feel fine?

I know the feeling you're talking about, and still get it if the car goes over a hump backed bridge, but I've been skydiving for 30 years, and have never suffered the same sensation, although 10,000 - 13,000 ft is still "near the earth" compared with astronauts.
 
If you're skydiving you should spend most of the time at terminal velocity and not accelerating, so you wouldn't get it as badly as an astronaut at least. Interesting that you've never felt it all though.
 
timberfella said:
I've been skydiving for 30 years
I will never understand why anyone would voluntarily climb out of a perfectly good aeroplane.

And you started doing that just about the same time that I started driving them. :biggrin:
 
Danger said:
I will never understand why anyone would voluntarily climb out of a perfectly good aeroplane.
There is only one way to gain that understanding... :wink:
 
russ_watters said:
There is only one way to gain that understanding... :wink:
That would involve telepathy, which I don't believe in, because sure as hell I'm never going to do it myself.
 
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Those who believe in psycokinesis... raise my hand.
 
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russ_watters said:
So where do you get that name?
You don't want to know. Let's just say that it's earned.
 

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