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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around various models of the atom, including historical and contemporary theories. Participants seek resources and clarification on specific atomic models, including their structures and representations.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests resources for learning about atomic models, indicating a need for websites that provide detailed information.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on whether the inquiry pertains to electronic and nuclear structures of atoms.
  • Several atomic models are mentioned, including those of Dalton, Thomson, Rutherford, and Bohr.
  • Links to various educational resources and images related to atomic models are provided by participants.
  • A participant corrects a misspelling of "Rutherford" and "Bohr," emphasizing the accuracy of the Bohr model compared to Rutherford's model.
  • Discussion includes the distinction between the Bohr model and Schrödinger's model, with notes on the introduction of probability clouds in quantum mechanics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the accuracy and relevance of various atomic models, particularly between the Bohr model and Rutherford's model. There is no consensus on which model is superior, and some corrections are made regarding names and concepts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the specifics of atomic models and their interpretations, highlighting the need for clearer definitions and distinctions between models.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand the historical development of atomic models and the distinctions between them, as well as those looking for visual resources related to these concepts.

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Where I can find more about models of atom? I need a name of site for example….
 
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Please specify models of an atom. This is not a "what holds an atom together"-like question, is it ? Are you asking about electronic and nuclear structure of an atom ? If so, please specify what you want to know.

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Thomson's, Raderford's and Bor's atom models.
 
Quick sketch :Dalton, Thomson, Rutherford, Bohr : http://www.broadeducation.com/htmlDemos/AbsorbChem/HistoryAtom/page.htm

Bohr, Schrödinger : http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/quantumzone/index.html

More detail on the Bohr picture : http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
 
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Thanks. But if you know I need also a site where I can get a lot of pictures.
 
who dat? LOL

Petar Mali said:
Thomson's, Raderford's and Bor's atom models.

Who the hell is Raderford? Maybe you are referring to Ernest Rutherford? And also, the esteemed Niels Bohr spelled his name with an "h." BTW, Rutherford's old "solar system" model is OK for novice physics students, and will in fact convey about 70% of all one needs to know about how atoms work, but the Bohr model with its probability clouds is more accurate.
 
velocity_boy said:
the Bohr model with its probability clouds is more accurate.

The Bohr model is the planetary model, with the addition of discrete allowed orbits specified by quantum numbers.

Schrödinger's model is where probability clouds came in. Actually Schrödinger at first thought (I think) that the psi function was related to the electric charge distribution inside the atom. The "probability interpretation" came from Max Born a bit later.
 

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