Is Dark Matter a Macroscopic Manifestation of Quantum Hidden Variables?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between dark matter and quantum mechanics, specifically exploring the idea of whether dark matter could be considered a macroscopic manifestation of quantum hidden variables. Participants examine the implications of quantum mechanics on macroscopic phenomena and the potential connections to dark matter and dark energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that dark matter might be analogous to hidden variables in quantum mechanics, suggesting a possible connection between the two concepts.
  • One participant questions the existence of "macro hidden variables," indicating a lack of familiarity with the concept and seeking references.
  • There is a discussion about the statistical nature of quantum mechanics, with a focus on how probabilities might apply to the motion of macroscopic bodies.
  • A participant reflects on the origins of the discussion, attributing it to a casual conversation influenced by alcohol, which raises concerns about the clarity and rigor of the ideas being presented.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the initial proposition, stating that it is "very likely no" regarding the connection between dark matter and quantum hidden variables.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the relationship between dark matter and quantum hidden variables. There are competing views, with some exploring the analogy while others express skepticism about its validity.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion, including a lack of clear definitions for "macro hidden variables" and the informal context in which some ideas were generated, which may affect the rigor of the arguments presented.

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Related to QM hidden Variables?...is Dark Matter the Macro Scale equivilent to the Hidden Variables on QM scales?
 
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Spin_Network said:
Related to QM hidden Variables?...is Dark Matter the Macro Scale equivilent to the Hidden Variables on QM scales?
Do you have a reference to MACRO hidden variables? This is a concept that I have not heard of.

QM deals with the statistical possibilities of particles taking a particular path from A to B, and how the possibilities can be calculated. It is possible that the probability of any particle deviating from a straight, direct path from A to B is suppressed by by destructive interference in the waveforms of non-straight paths. My understanding of this is very rudimentary and I might be quite misinformed, but are you asking if we can assign a probablility function to the position and velocity of macroscopic bodies?
 
turbo-1 said:
Do you have a reference to MACRO hidden variables? This is a concept that I have not heard of.

QM deals with the statistical possibilities of particles taking a particular path from A to B, and how the possibilities can be calculated. It is possible that the probability of any particle deviating from a straight, direct path from A to B is suppressed by by destructive interference in the waveforms of non-straight paths. My understanding of this is very rudimentary and I might be quite misinformed, but are you asking if we can assign a probablility function to the position and velocity of macroscopic bodies?

turbo-1 this post is the result of a late night get together with some friends and is the result of someone (my brother-in-law) contemplating Dark Energy/Dark matter, as the:scaled up macro product of a Quantum Mechanical process?

I'm going to be 'drying-out' today after some excess wine supping, so I am on a damage limitation recon exercise at mo
 
Enjoy the headache. With respect to the OP, the answer is very likely no.
 
Spin_Network said:
turbo-1 this post is the result of a late night get together with some friends and is the result of someone (my brother-in-law) contemplating Dark Energy/Dark matter, as the:scaled up macro product of a Quantum Mechanical process?

I'm going to be 'drying-out' today after some excess wine supping, so I am on a damage limitation recon exercise at mo
Would you mind being a little more careful with what you post please?

I'm sure random word association could be great fun, especially over a glass or three of good wine.

However, if I could ask you to take notes, then in the cold light of morning, check what it is you really want to write (and perhaps do some googling of your own), before you actually post?

Thank you
Nereid
 

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