Can No Movement FTL Travel Revolutionize Space Travel?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of faster-than-light (FTL) travel through the manipulation of space, specifically by increasing the distance between two objects. Participants explore theoretical implications, potential devices, and the relationship to established theories such as general relativity and inflation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a device that could increase the distance between two objects, suggesting that this could allow for movement faster than light by effectively shrinking the distance between them.
  • Another participant challenges the idea, questioning the feasibility of such a device and requesting mathematical backing for the claims made.
  • A third participant connects the concept to general relativity, noting that space can expand faster than light under certain conditions, referencing the Alcubierre warp drive as a related idea.
  • A later reply assumes the discussion is grounded in mainstream models of physics, but raises concerns about the assumptions behind the proposed device and its implications for mass translocation.
  • There is a suggestion that the proposed device might simply push both objects away rather than allowing for the intended manipulation of distance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and implications of the proposed device for FTL travel. There is no consensus on the validity of the initial proposal or its alignment with established physical theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding the assumptions behind the proposed device and its compatibility with existing theories, particularly general relativity. The discussion remains speculative with unresolved mathematical and theoretical aspects.

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I was thinking a while back, after reading something about inflation. if you could build a device that will increse the distance between you and an object(lets say earth), you would be able the change posision faster then sublightspeed motion allows. because you would create distance, of which there is no maximum rate of expansion, between two object, you would be able to shrink the distance between any object if that object were in a stait line between the two things that you were increseing the distance between.

if you follow me, that would be a way to translocate anyamount of mass. but you would first have to have that way to create distance between two specific objects.

I would like your thoughts on this matter.
 
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Read the posting guidelines. What part of 'personal theories' do you not understand? If you are serious, show the math.
 
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I think he/she is talking about the fact that general relativity allows the space between two objects to expand faster than the speed of light, in some "reasonable" coordinate system (though nothing ever exceeds the speed of light locally of course). Something like this is the idea behind the Alcubierre warp drive.
 
With respect to Chronos' objection, I'll assume AP is proposing to build a device that is consistent with workings of the mainstream models of the universe (since AP mentioned inflation theory and some principles of relativity theory). But yeah, if AP is proposing a device that works assuming a model other than relativity/etc. is in play, then we'll end the speculation here.

AP said:
if you could build a device that will increse the distance between you and an object(lets say earth),

Meaning a device that creates spacetime, right?

you would be able the change posision faster then sublightspeed motion allows.

I suppose it would depend on the efficiency of the device, assuming such a thing can be built at all.

because you would create distance, of which there is no maximum rate of expansion, between two object, you would be able to shrink the distance between any object if that object were in a stait line between the two things that you were increseing the distance between.

if you follow me, that would be a way to translocate anyamount of mass.

Wouldn't you just push both objects away?

initial condition:
Device - Earth - Object

creating new space:
Device ---- Earth - Object
(no change between the Earth & the Object)
 

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