G Forces 101: Understanding and Estimating the Impact on Moving Bodies

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding g forces and their impact on moving bodies, particularly in the context of animals making steep turns. Participants explore how to estimate the g forces experienced during such movements and the underlying physics, including circular motion and centripetal forces.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a lack of knowledge about how g forces act on moving bodies and seeks resources for better understanding.
  • Another suggests keywords like biomechanics and biophysics, and mentions the square-cube law as a relevant principle.
  • A later post clarifies that on a frictionless plane, an object continues moving at constant speed regardless of g forces, but must oppose the downward pull of gravity to maintain motion.
  • Another participant specifies interest in understanding the g forces an animal experiences during steep turns, indicating a need for knowledge about circular motion and centripetal forces.
  • One participant provides a formula for calculating centripetal acceleration and discusses the effects of g forces on pilots and astronauts, noting that training and genetic factors influence tolerance to high g forces.
  • It is suggested that by estimating an animal's speed and the radius of its turning circle, one can calculate the g force experienced.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to understanding g forces, and multiple perspectives on the topic are presented. There is ongoing exploration of concepts without definitive conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding and assumptions about the physics involved, particularly regarding the mechanics of g forces in relation to animal movement and the effects of circular motion.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in biomechanics, physics of motion, and the effects of g forces on living organisms may find this discussion relevant.

Dragon
Just had a couple of discussions with a pal of mine lately about g forces. i notived me laking there knowledge about how those forces act on moving bodies and how to calculate (better said estimate) what impacts this has.

Mainly we try to figure out how a moving animal is unfluenced by g forces and how we can estimate what gf they have to sustain.

If there is a nice page around that could help us to understant this better or any help from the peops here this would be nice.
 
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Can't point you to a page, but I can give you a couple of google keywords, biomechanics and biophysics. Also check out square-cube law, one of the basic principles.
 
thx... i'll try to see what i can find out with them.
 
If the moving object or animal were on a frictionless plane and no other opposing forces - it will continue to move at a constant speed infinately, reguardless of g.

G only pulls down and continues to pull the animal toward the ground, while the animal must oppose this force, as soon as it stops opposing this force, it will be pull to the ground and its foward momentum will be stopped by friction.

Is this what you are asking? Or are you wanting the actual mechanics of the animals body?

Nautica
 
Not really. We both tried to figure out what g forces an animal (of what size ever) has to deal with it it makes for an example a steep turn like this. If you do this in a plane you will encounter several g during this procedure.
So for beeing able to make an estimation about this I need to understand the physics behind g forces first.
It has to do with cirular motion and centripetal forces but I need a bit more understanding of this.
 
Calculate centripetal acceleration for circular motion using a=v^2/r This acceleration will be what you call a 'g' force.

Pilots and astronauts are spun round in centrifuge type contraptions to see how they cope with g forces. Mere mortals tend to pass out at 5-7 g, but with training, an inflating suit, and a good genetic mix to help you cope, 11 g or more is possible. The Airforce in many countries now check their candidates for genetic ability to cope with g forces before deciding wether to train them or not!

By 'guestimating' the speed at which an animal runs and the radius of its turning circle, you can calculate its g force. :smile:
 

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