Solving the Temperature Difference for Steel & Aluminum Rings

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The discussion revolves around the thermal expansion of a steel sphere and an aluminum ring, specifically determining the temperature at which the sphere will fall through the ring. The problem involves coefficients of linear expansion and initial diameters at 0°C.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the coefficients of linear expansion to relate temperature changes to diameter changes. The original poster attempts to set up an equation based on the difference in diameters but finds their result unsatisfactory. Others suggest deriving the diameters as functions of temperature and solving for equality.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on formulating the problem, particularly in expressing diameter changes as functions of temperature. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the thermal expansion equations effectively, with no consensus reached yet on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the specifics of the thermal expansion equation and how to relate the change in diameter to temperature. There is mention of initial conditions and the need to find a temperature where the diameters are equal, but the exact method remains under discussion.

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A steel sphere sits on top of an aluminum ring. The steel sphere (a (average
coefficient of linear expansion) = 1.1*10^-5/C) has a diameter of 4 cm at 0
C. The aluminum ring (a = 2.4*10^-5/C) has an inside diameter of 3.9940 cm at 0 C. Closest to which temperature given will the sphere just fall through the ring?

I thought that if I took the a*L*deltaT(aluminum ring) - a*L*deltaT(steel) =
1*10^-4 (negative difference of diameters, sphere - ring), I would get the
right answer. However, I wasn't all that close (ended up being 208 C, and I
got an answer much less than that). I was wondering if there was a better way to approach this problem? Thanks a lot
 
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You know the diameters of the aluminum and steel at T = 0. Figure out the diameter of each as a function of [itex]\Delta T[/itex]. Then solve for the temperature at which the diameters are equal.
 
This has definitely helped me, but I'm stumped on what to do about the deltaL in thermal expansion equation. And if I do figure that out, what do I do to figure out T?

Would it be deltaL/L*a(steel) + deltaL/L*a(aluminum) = T?

Thank you a ton
 
The diameter at temperature T equals the original diameter (at 0 degrees) plus the change in diameter from the temperature increase ([itex]\Delta T = T[/itex]):
[tex]D = D_0 + D_0 \alpha T[/tex]

Use this to solve for the temperature at which both diameters are equal.
 

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