Raman Spectroscopy: Unique Features & Benefits

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The discussion revolves around the unique features and benefits of Raman spectroscopy compared to other spectroscopic techniques, particularly infrared spectroscopy. Participants explore the principles behind these methods, their complementary nature, and specific characteristics that distinguish them.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Raman spectroscopy excites transitions that are forbidden in infrared spectroscopy due to different selection rules.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of transitions in infrared versus Raman spectroscopy, with some participants suggesting that infrared involves electronic energy transitions while Raman involves phonon transitions.
  • One participant mentions that Raman and infrared spectroscopy complement each other, particularly in molecules with center of inversion symmetry, where Raman active lines may be forbidden in IR and vice versa.
  • Another point raised is the observation of rotational lines in pure vibrational spectra, which some participants find puzzling as they belong to the microwave region.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the excitation of vibrational states in both techniques, with emphasis on the role of dipole moments in IR and polarisability in Raman spectroscopy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of how Raman and infrared spectroscopy operate, and while some clarifications are made, there is no consensus on all points discussed.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific definitions of terms like "infrared spectroscopy," which may vary in usage among participants. Additionally, the discussion includes unresolved questions about the presence of rotational lines in vibrational spectra.

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raman spectroscopy!

Hi, can anybody please tell what is the speciality of Raman spectroscopy and how it differs from other techniques?? does it have any uniqueness? more info is welcomed! thanks in advance.
 
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Raman spectroscopy excites transitions forbidden by infrared spectroscopy as Raman transitions are bound by different selection rules.

Claude.
 
Claude Bile said:
Raman spectroscopy excites transitions forbidden by infrared spectroscopy as Raman transitions are bound by different selection rules.

Claude.

I am not sure i get your point here. What are you talking about ? Could you clarify, please ?

I am no specialist on this but doesn't IR spectroscopy involve electronic energy transitions induced by the incoming IR photon, while Raman spectroscopy is just the phonon transitions induced by the scattering of a photon at the lattice-atoms ? By this scattering process, a phonon is either emitted or absorbed : ie the Stokes and anti-Stokes lines ?

marlon
 
Raman scattering and IR speoectroscopy compliment each other when we are dealing with molecules having centre of inversion symmetry. In these molecules raman active lines are forbidden in IR and vice versa. Coming to vibrational and rotational lines in a spectrum..vibrations are obsorved in infrared region and rotations in microwave region,,but when we look at the pure vibrational spectra we can also see rotational lines which should not be there as they belong to microwave region..why does this happen?
 
Marlon, infrared spectroscopy excites vibrational energy states in a given molecule (although there are electronic transitions that are excited by infrared wavelengths, the term infrared spectroscopy usually refers to vibrational transitions. The more correct name for infrared spectroscopy is vibrational or rovibrational spectroscopy).

A vibrational state is excited through infrared spectroscopy if there is a variation in the dipole moment of the molecule as the molecule vibrates. Some vibrations (such as symmetric vibrations) are not infrared active because their dipole moment is constant.

A vibrational state is excited through Raman spectroscopy if there is a variation in the polarisability of the molecule.

Photon79, you are not allowed to double post in these forums, I'm pretty sure marlon already warned you once before. Read my response on the other thread and if you have further questions, post them there.

Claude.
 
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Thanks Claude for the explanation. I also looked it up on Wikipedia, and i do realize where i was wrong.

Thanks again

marlon
 
Not a problem Marlon, :smile: .

Claude.
 

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