Do animals dream, or have REM sleep?

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The discussion revolves around the question of whether animals dream and the nature of their REM sleep. Participants explore observations of animal behavior during sleep, the scientific understanding of REM sleep across different species, and the challenges in researching the content of animal dreams.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe their observations of pets, such as cats and dogs, exhibiting behaviors during sleep that suggest dreaming, including physical movements and sounds.
  • One participant questions the basis of claims about animal dreaming, suggesting that such assertions are speculative without concrete evidence.
  • Another participant notes that REM sleep varies among species, with smaller animals generally experiencing more REM sleep, and discusses how developmental factors influence REM sleep duration.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of research on the content of animal dreams, with participants acknowledging that animals cannot report their dreams as humans do.
  • Some participants discuss the relationship between REM sleep and brain activity, particularly in the visual cortex, while noting that the connection to dreaming remains unmeasured.
  • One participant humorously speculates about the content of animal dreams, questioning if cats dream of "miniscule sheep."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the existence and nature of animal dreaming, with no consensus reached. Some assert that animals do dream based on observations, while others emphasize the speculative nature of such claims and the lack of empirical research.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding animal sleep and dreaming, particularly regarding the inability to measure dream content and the reliance on behavioral observations.

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Sometimes I can swear that our pet cat is dreaming in her sleep: her jaw kind of sags, her breathing becomes sleep-like (almost audible), she has tiny jerks in her paws and arms, her whiskers tremble.

During these times, she is in a deeper kind of sleep than her more frequent "cat sleep" during which she sleeps "with one eye open."

I think on a couple of occasions she made tiny sounds and moved her mouth as if suckling or eating in her "dream." Any science to this, or am I dreaming?
 
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EnumaElish said:
Sometimes I can swear that our pet cat is dreaming in her sleep: her jaw kind of sags, her breathing becomes sleep-like (almost audible), she has tiny jerks in her paws and arms, her whiskers tremble.

During these times, she is in a deeper kind of sleep than her more frequent "cat sleep" during which she sleeps "with one eye open."

I think on a couple of occasions she made tiny sounds and moved her mouth as if suckling or eating in her "dream." Any science to this, or am I dreaming?

Yes animals do dream and I used to watch my dog have dreams when he was alive.
 
How do you know your dog was dreaming? You're "guessing" just like I am, right?

What I am wondering is whether there is any research on animal REM sleep, or animal sleep at all.
 
REM sleep amounts also vary across animal species, depending on the size of the animal and its level of development at birth. The size of an animal seems to affect the type of sleep it experiences—small animals tend to spend more time in REM sleep. Animals that are born in relatively helpless states, such as opossums and humans, generally have more REM sleep as newborns than animals that can hunt, eat, keep warm, and defend themselves soon after birth, for instance guinea pigs or horses. Even as animals age into adulthood, those born relatively immature continue to spend more time in REM sleep than animals that are mature at birth. (2)
animals and people and rem sleep
 
Do cats dream of miniscule sheep??

Thanks, hypatia. Am I correct to think that the content of animals' dreams is not a subject that has been researched or can be reserched?

This may sound like a question from an amateur (at best) because it is.
 
Yes, the content of animal dreams has certainly not been seriously researched. The only way we know about the dreams of other human beings is by them reporting that they have dreamt, and unfortunately animals cannot report this.

The notion that REM sleep means that one is dreaming solely comes from the observation that people that are awakened during REM sleep more often report to remember what they were dreaming (ranging from 70-95%) than people that are awakened during non-REM sleep (5-10%).
 
I thought it was a little more direct than that - I thought rem sleep corresponded to activity in the visual cortex of the brain (which is why the eyes move). I could be mistaken though...
 
My dog sometimes makes little barking and growling noises while sleeping, as if dreaming about something.
 
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I thought it was a little more direct than that - I thought rem sleep corresponded to activity in the visual cortex of the brain (which is why the eyes move). I could be mistaken though...

Yes, REM sleep is accompanied by a particular activity in the brain, but whether that activity leads us to experience dreams is not "measurable", let alone the contents of the dreams.

(by the way the visual cortex does not make the eyes move, it analyzes incoming visual information)
 

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