Thinking About Working Out: Can It Increase Muscle Mass?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether merely thinking about working out can lead to an increase in muscle mass. Participants explore various aspects of this idea, including psychological effects, experimental evidence, and physiological mechanisms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants recall a study suggesting that thinking about working out could increase muscle mass, though details are unclear.
  • One participant expresses skepticism, arguing that physical strain is necessary for muscle growth, as muscles need to be worked against resistance to tear and rebuild stronger.
  • A participant mentions an experiment where a group that thought about working out lost more weight than those who exercised, raising questions about the power of mental conviction.
  • Another participant highlights the placebo effect and suggests that while some athletes can mentally activate their muscles, this does not lead to an increase in muscle volume.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of physiological mechanisms supporting the claim that thinking alone can increase muscle mass.
  • One participant reflects on personal experiences of muscle atrophy due to lack of physical activity, questioning the feasibility of muscle growth without resistance.
  • There is a mention of the influence of marketing and societal beliefs on perceptions of physical fitness and health.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the original claim. There are multiple competing views, with some supporting the idea of mental influence on physical outcomes and others firmly opposing it, emphasizing the necessity of physical activity for muscle growth.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the validity of studies mentioned and the mechanisms involved in muscle growth, highlighting a lack of clarity and potential limitations in the claims made.

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I *think* I remember hearing something about a study that showed just thinking about working out was able to increase muscle mass.. was this true?
 
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somasimple has to be right, I'm thinking it is a load of bologna.

Now thinking improves your mental muscle, the more thinking you do the smarter you are. Whatever muscle you work on is what you improve. By pumping your biceps you're not going to increase your cavs.

Now it is true that the mind has amazing power over the body, and changes it physically. This may be the case in things like the placebo effect, or hypocondriacs (who think they are sick so they become sick). Maybe they thought this was the same way, if you can think yourself sick/healthy why not be able to think yourself strong? But I haven't heard of any studies that confirmed this, (not denying them but I haven't seen them).

I'm thinking that the answer is no because when you build a muscle, you have to physically strain it so the tissues "tear" so to speak (this is how I learned it anyway) so when they regrow they regrow stronger. This must be physically done, as chemicals/hormones or qi or whatever doubtfully would cause the muscles to tear like they would cause symptoms to manifest or not.
 
This sort of applies:

There was an experament conducted (I'm not sire where) where they tested three different groups to see how much weight they lost.

Group#1 had to exercise and eat right everyday throughout the experament.
Group#2 Had to *think* about working out, eating right, and losing weight for 45 minutes every day of the experament.,
Group#3 did no physical labor at all

turns out that group#2 lost more weight then #1 or #3
 
well, stuff like steroids make you temporaraly faster, or gives you more stamina. as you said earlier, hormones and chemicals effect various things, though i would doubt anything long term, not without actual excersice aswell...

why in that experiment did they not try thinking then excersising?

oh, and that quote cracks me up, what book is it from?
 
Well,

Group#1 had to exercise and eat right everyday throughout the experament.
Group#2 Had to *think* about working out, eating right, and losing weight for 45 minutes every day of the experament.,
Group#3 did no physical labor at all

That is another question. The power of conviction is known (as said) as placebo/nocebo. Some sportmen have the ability to exercise virtually (activate the motor centres) their muscles but neophytes can't. (but muscle volume doesn't change)
 
I *think* I remember hearing something about a study that showed just thinking about working out was able to increase muscle mass.. was this true?

There might be some correlation between sitting around thinking all the time and building mass (via a gut), but *muscle* mass? It seems only logical that for a muscle to build you would need to actually be using the muscles in question, and in fact, they only build because they "push" against resistance supplied by things such as objects or gravity (hence, why you see weight trainers with bigger muscles on average than people who don't train with weights). If gravity wasn't there for example, and you could still think would you be "able" to even build muscle without some form of resistance demanding it? This is why astronauts can't stay out in space for very long periods of time at the present (my limited understanding is that they undergo some sort of muscular atrophy because with gravity absent the body stops building basic muscles because it no longer "feels" the need to). I myself have been sick in periods of my life and bedridden only to wake up a few weeks later feeling ultra weak.

Either way I am skeptical of so called "scientific studies" which make such sensational claims and yet provide no physiological mechanism for us to observe and verify that such a process can actually take place at the molecular level.
 
Mental gridlock it would be grand if you could give us an idea of where you might have read that was it sciam? I suspect it's probably so, personally I've noticed if I don't mediate 2 or 3 times a week to give my life some direction I'll spend an extra 6 hrs. a week playing less rewarding games than say running... it seems like too minor a thing as if we couldn't possibly be that suggestible, but then look at all the commercials that have convinced people they "stink" if they don't go out and buy this brand of soap and shower each day.
 
Read what?
 
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Sorry, I mean't Yomamma, oh well.
 

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