Solving 8cosx-4=0: Find x-Values

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on finding the x-values that satisfy the equation 8cosx-4=0. Participants explore the solutions within the context of trigonometric functions and their properties, including periodicity and symmetry.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Exploratory
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests the solutions x=pi/3 and 4pi/3 but expresses uncertainty about their correctness.
  • Another participant questions the inclusion of 4pi/3 as a solution and references the cosine identity for finding angles.
  • A later reply proposes 5pi/3 as a solution, indicating a different perspective on the correct values.
  • One participant elaborates on the reasoning behind the solutions, explaining the relationship between cosine values and the unit circle, and identifies that the correct solutions are pi/3 and 5pi/3, not 4pi/3.
  • This participant also notes that all solutions can be expressed in the form of pi/3 + 2nπ and 5pi/3 + 2nπ for integer n, emphasizing the periodic nature of the cosine function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solutions, as there are competing views regarding the inclusion of 4pi/3 and the identification of 5pi/3 as a solution. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct x-values.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the range of x-values considered and the interpretation of cosine values. Some mathematical steps are not fully resolved, particularly in relation to the periodicity of the cosine function.

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I am trying to identify the x-values that are solutions for the equation:
8cosx-4=0

I have come up with: x=pi/3,4pi/3
This doesn't seem correct but I am stumped. :confused:
 
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Why 4pi/3?
Remember, if you need to solve:
[tex]\cos \alpha = \cos \beta = x[/tex]
[tex]\Leftrightarrow \alpha = \pm \beta + k2\pi, k \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]
In other words,
[tex]\alpha = \pm \arccos x + k2\pi, k \in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]
Viet Dao,
 
so,
5pi/3

I C

Thank you
 
TonyC said:
I am trying to identify the x-values that are solutions for the equation:
8cosx-4=0

I have come up with: x=pi/3,4pi/3
This doesn't seem correct but I am stumped. :confused:

8 cos x= 4 so cos x= 1/2. You could use a calculator but I think of half an equilateral triangle to observe that [itex]cos\left(\frac{\pi}{3}\right)= \frac{1}{2}[/itex]. I then recall that "cos t" is the x coordinate of the unit circle parametrized by x= cos t, y= sin t. Drawing a vertical line at x= 1/2 I notice the vertical symmetry: [itex]cos\left(-\frac{\pi}{3}\right)= \frac{1}{2}[/itex] also. That gives me two solutions, between [itex]-\pi[/itex] and [itex]\pi[/tex]. If you want solutions between 0 and [itex]2\pi[/itex], [itex]-\frac{\pi}{3}+ 2\pi= \frac{5\pi}{3}[/itex] (NOT [itex]\frac{4\pi}{3}[/itex]).<br /> <br /> Since cosine is periodic with period [itex]2\pi[/itex], <b>all</b> solutions to 8cos x- 4= 0 are of the form [itex]\frac{\pi}{3}+ 2n\pi[/itex] or [itex]\frac{5\pi}{3}+ 2n\pi[/itex] for some integer n.[/itex]
 
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