Solving Polynomial Factors: Using Factor Theorem and Synthetic Division

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of factoring polynomials, particularly when considering factors in the form (bx-a) instead of the standard (x-a). Participants explore the implications of the Factor Theorem and synthetic division in this context, as well as the difficulties in finding roots and factors for polynomials of varying degrees.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about factoring polynomials with factors of the form (bx-a) and question how to apply the Factor Theorem in these cases.
  • One participant suggests that if (bx-a) is a factor, then (x-a/b) should also be a factor, but this raises questions about the field of numbers being used.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the limitations of factoring polynomials over different fields, such as real versus complex numbers, with examples provided.
  • Participants discuss the complexity of finding roots for polynomials of degree greater than four, noting that exact roots may not be expressible in terms of radicals.
  • There is mention of the need for additional methods beyond the four basic operations to find factors for higher-order polynomials.
  • One participant references the Factor Theorem as defined by Mathworld, emphasizing its application to rational roots.
  • Another participant suggests constructing possible roots by factoring the leading coefficient and constant term, indicating a method for finding rational roots.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best methods for factoring polynomials with non-standard factors. Multiple competing views on the applicability of the Factor Theorem and the challenges of finding roots remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the field of numbers being used, the complexity of higher-order polynomials, and the potential for infinite terms when testing for rational roots.

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I was under the impression that any polynomial could be factored by using the Factor Theorem and synthetic division, but then I got to thinking: What if a polynomial has factors in the form (bx-a), as opposed to (x-a)? I can't find them with the Factor Theorem, so what do I do?

I imagine the answer will look something like this:

Given p(x) = (bx-a)(dx-c)(fx-e), I use the Factor Theorem to find the factors, (x-a/b), (x-c/d), (x-e/f), and bdf. Am I on the right track?
 
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Hookflash said:
I was under the impression that any polynomial could be factored by using the Factor Theorem and synthetic division, but then I got to thinking: What if a polynomial has factors in the form (bx-a), as opposed to (x-a)? I can't find them with the Factor Theorem, so what do I do?

I imagine the answer will look something like this:

Given p(x) = (bx-a)(dx-c)(fx-e), I use the Factor Theorem to find the factors, (x-a/b), (x-c/d), (x-e/f), and bdf. Am I on the right track?
yes if it has a factor (bx-a) it also has a factor (x-a/b)
There are two problems
1)What field are you using
for instance if the field is real numbers
x^2+1 cannot be factored
The field of complex numbers is complete all polynomials can be completely factored
x^2+1=(x+i)(x-i)
2)How will you find the factors? For many polynomials finding and representing the factors can be a problem. For example with the 4 operations (+,-,*) and root extration you can find roots up to forth order equations (that is all of them some higher order equations can be factored easily, but not all) more functions are needed. Though it can be shown that the factors exist, it many be difficult to find them.
 
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How will you find the factors?

I was wondering this myself, especially when I'm dealing with factors that have rational terms--i.e., (x-a/b). Those are a lot of terms to test via the Factor Theorem. I was thinking there must be a shortcut or something (aside from using my computer ;) ).
 
Hookflash said:
I was wondering this myself, especially when I'm dealing with factors that have rational terms--i.e., (x-a/b). Those are a lot of terms to test via the Factor Theorem. I was thinking there must be a shortcut or something (aside from using my computer ;) ).

I'm wondering what "Factor Theorem" you are referring to. Unless the roots are rational, there will be an infinite number of terms to test.
Indeed, for polynomials of degree greater than 4, roots often cannot be written in terms of radicals! There is no way of finding, or even writing, exact roots.
 
The factor theorem, at least according to Mathworld, is that if a is a root of the polynomial f, then (x - a) divides f.
 
I just noticed that Hookflash did say that he was working with rational roots.

Hookflash, I don't know any way other than factoring the leading coefficient and constant term and constructing possible roots out of those.
 

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