Can't Make Steel By Transmuting Atoms: Betting $20 On It!

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The discussion centers around the misconception that steel can be created through the transmutation of carbon and oxygen atoms. Transmutation, which involves nuclear reactions, can produce new elements but cannot directly create steel, an alloy primarily composed of iron. The process of creating steel requires the combination of iron with carbon, not merely mixing carbon and oxygen. Additionally, nuclear fission is involved in creating smaller elements, not larger ones like iron, which is essential for steel production.

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Me mate says that that you can make Steal from mixing Carbon atom and Oxygen (Transmution) :eek: basically stuffing arround with nuclues. As far as I can remember you can't touch the nuclues as the EM forces are too strong.

How wrong is he? We made a bet of $20 :smile:
 
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bayan said:
Me mate says that that you can make Steal from mixing Carbon atom and Oxygen (Transmution) :eek: basically stuffing arround with nuclues. As far as I can remember you can't touch the nuclues as the EM forces are too strong.

How wrong is he? We made a bet of $20 :smile:
First I think it is safe to assume you mean steel (an alloy containing mainly iron).

Transmutation could be used to create new elements (via nuclear fission). It would need a nuclear reactor. However, this would be reducing the size of the atom (so carbon-12 to two smaller elements).

I have heard of making larger elements with smaller ones but I can only assume that only (relatively) small elements can be made by fission. Steel, anyway, is an alloy and it would take a lot of carbon and oxygen to make the iron and other elements needed (unless, of course, carbon was one of the elements needed).

As far as I can see you need to split the money or ask someone else in these forums.

The Bob (2004 ©)

P.S. Could someone correct my knowledge of fission and fusion in modern day reactors if what I have said is incorrect. Thanks.
 

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