Understanding Strongly Correlated Systems: From Atoms to Chaos Theory

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter leoant
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    System
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of strongly correlated systems, particularly in the context of materials with d electrons. Participants explore the definitions, classifications, and mathematical descriptions of these systems, touching on various models and theories relevant to condensed matter physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether materials with d electrons can be classified as strongly correlated systems, noting that the term is often vague and context-dependent.
  • One participant discusses the significance of the ratio of t/U or W/U in determining strong correlation, where t is the hopping integral, U is the on-site Coulomb repulsion, and W is the bandwidth.
  • Another participant references the Zaanen-Sawatzky-Allen scheme as a classification method for strongly correlated electron systems, particularly distinguishing between Mott-Hubbard and charge-transfer systems.
  • Some participants express interest in mathematical descriptions of complex systems, debating the applicability of models such as the Hubbard model, t-J model, or chaos theory.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of certain models in specific scenarios, such as Kondo systems, where perturbative approaches may fail due to large higher-order interactions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the classification of strongly correlated systems or the best mathematical models to describe them. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the definitions and applicability of various theories.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the understanding of strongly correlated systems is complex and context-dependent, with different models potentially applicable in different situations. There are also references to the need for further exploration of the topic through literature and research articles.

leoant
Messages
35
Reaction score
0
I am no familiar with this area, and I want to know whether can we say that materials including atoms with d electrons are strongly correltated sysytem?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
leoant said:
I am no familiar with this area, and I want to know whether can we say that materials including atoms with d electrons are strongly correltated sysytem?

You do know that you're asking a question that is the topic of whole books.

The term "strongly correlated" is often a vague term. More often than not, it is reflected in the ratio of t/U, or W/U, where t is the hopping integral, U is the on-site Coulomb repulsion, and W is the bandwidth. If you have done tight-binding approximation, you would have noticed that the s-orbital tends to be highly localized around the ions. Compare this to the d-orbital that is more spread out, and you can see why transition atoms and oxides will create more overlap between neighboring sites. So the hopping integral will become more dominant and electrons from each ions can no longer ignore each other's presence. This, essentially, is a handwaving argument why transition metal/oxides tend to be considered as strongly-correlated systems.

One of the most important classifications in strongly correlated electron system is the Zaanen-Sawatzky-Allen scheme[1]. This scheme tries to delineate between a Mott-Hubbard system and a charge-transfer system in the transition metal/oxides. You may want to read on this also.

Zz.

[1] J. Zaanen, et al. Phys. Rev. Lett. v.55, p.418 (1985).
 
Here's possibly additional useful information on this topic:

http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0508631

Caveat: I did only a quick glance at this preprint, so I cannot vouch for its accuracy (it looked good on that quick glance). I seldom recommend preprints on Arxiv based on a flimsy review such as this, but I'm pressed for time right now (have to complete as much stuff this week as possible before my Disney World vacation).

Zz.
 
Thank you very much, dear Zapperz. And May you a good journey.
 
More relevant material on this topic from a very well-known source. This is a review article that appeared in Science a couple of months ago.

http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0509041

Zz.
 
Ohh, it's an exciting paper while makes me frustrated. One can interpret 'the complex system' intuitively, however, how can we describe it mathematically?
Using Hubbard mode or t-J mode? Or even chaos theory?
 
leoant said:
Ohh, it's an exciting paper while makes me frustrated. One can interpret 'the complex system' intuitively, however, how can we describe it mathematically?
Using Hubbard mode or t-J mode? Or even chaos theory?

But that is a central research work in condensed matter. What model one can use it extremely important. One model that works in one situation may not work in another. It very much depends on the nature of the problem. If you have, for example, a Kondo system, then even perturbative approach may fail since for this system, one of the higher order interaction is LARGE.

Zz.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K