Proof: x is irrational => sqrt(x) is irrational

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The discussion revolves around the proof of the statement: If x is irrational, then √x is irrational. Participants explore different approaches to proving this claim, including the use of contrapositives and the implications of rationality.

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  • The original poster attempts to prove the statement by considering its contrapositive, suggesting that if √x is rational, then x must also be rational. Some participants affirm this approach, while others question the validity of the contrapositive used.

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The discussion includes varying interpretations of the proof method. Some participants express confidence in the contrapositive approach, while others challenge its logical equivalence and suggest that a proof by contradiction may be necessary. There is no explicit consensus on the best method to use.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of rational and irrational numbers, as well as the implications of proving statements through contrapositives versus contradictions. There is an emphasis on understanding logical equivalence in mathematical proofs.

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Ok so I am to prove: If x is irrational, then [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] is irrational. So I started by trying to prove the contrapositive: If [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex] is rational, then x is rational.

So then [tex]\sqrt{x} = \frac{m}{n}[/tex] For integers m and n, n[tex]\neq[/tex]0

Then square both sides. [tex]x = \frac{m^2}{n^2}[/tex]

This is clearly rational because m^2 and n^2 are integers.

Now, is this a satisfactory proof? I am sure it is, it just seems as though it was too easy. Did my teacher ask it because it shows how proving the contrapositive can sometimes make life easy? Thanks.
 
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Yes, that's correct, and it is an easy proof. It boils down to this: Every square of a rational number is rational, and so these rational squares are the only numbers which have rational square roots.
 
Did my teacher ask it because it shows how proving the contrapositive can sometimes make life easy? Thanks.

Yep! Ideally, when you're posed with the problem of proving a statement, looking at its contrapositive should become second nature! With luck, you'll get to the point where you barely even notice the difference between A→B and ~B→~A!
 
Actually that is incorrect.
The negation of "irrational" is simply "not irrational". For a number to be "not irrational" has 2 cases. The number must be either complex (including i) or rational. Thus your statement of what the contrapositive is is not logically equivalent. This proof must be done by contradiction not by contrapositive.
 

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