Understanding Electrostatic Force: Q&A

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The discussion revolves around the electrostatic force between charged objects, specifically focusing on the implications of charge quantities and distances in atomic contexts. Participants explore the relationship defined by Coulomb's law and its application to atoms with extra electrons.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster seeks a simplified explanation of electrostatic force and questions the effects of doubling charges on the force between atoms. Other participants clarify the representation of charges and explore the implications of negative charges in atomic interactions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing clarifications on charge representations and the nature of forces between like charges. There is an exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of these concepts in specific scenarios.

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There is an underlying assumption that participants are familiar with basic electrostatics, but the discussion reveals varying interpretations of atomic charge states and their effects on force interactions.

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Can someone explain this law to me in simple terms? I know that it is the electrostatic force between 2 charged objects in relation to the quantity and inversly related to the square of distance F=K q1 q2 / d^2 ..but what if you have atoms that are spearated by a certain distance and have extra electrons? What happens to the force if you double the charges?
Thank you.
 
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[tex]q_1[/tex] and [tex]q_2[/tex] represents the net charge of the atoms. For example, if you have [tex]Fe^2^+[/tex] and [tex]Cl^-[/tex], then [tex]q_1[/tex] and [tex]q_2[/tex] would be 2 and 1, respectively. The second number would be positive because it accepts a negative charge by default, making the answer a positive number.
 
so, the formula I typed above is correct and could be used with 2 oxygen atoms, 3 cm apart and each have 2 extra electrons ? Wouldn't I get a -2 charge?
(-2)(-2) / 3cm ??
 
well, atoms for the most part are neutral. if you had two oxygen atoms that somehow gained electrons and each had a negative 2 charge that were placed next to each other, they'd fly apart. negative * negative = positive -- repulsive force. negative * posative = negative -- attractive force.

doubling the charges of each one -- look at the equation.

F = (1/4*pi*epsilon-zero)*(q1)(q2)/d^2

say each charge is e (charge of an electron), and you double each one (2e), the magnitude of the force will increase by a factor of 4 (2*2).

dealing with atoms is a bit tricky, but to simplify it enough to say that there is a uniform sphereical charge distribution at the location of each ion would work. two negative ions placed near each other in a closed system would accelerate away from each other on the line that they create.
 

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