SHM problem involving an applied force

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving simple harmonic motion (SHM) related to a spring system. The original poster is trying to determine the spring constant of a spring attached to a 2kg object, which is subjected to an applied force while displaced from its equilibrium position.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use the applied force to find the spring constant by setting it equal to the spring force. They express uncertainty about their approach and seek validation of their reasoning.
  • Participants discuss the appropriate form of the SHM equation, questioning whether to use cosine or sine based on initial conditions.

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Some participants affirm the original poster's calculations regarding the spring constant, while others provide insights into the choice of the SHM equation based on initial conditions. There is an exploration of different interpretations regarding the initial state of the system.

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The original poster expresses anxiety about their understanding and seeks reassurance about their approach. There is an emphasis on the importance of initial conditions in determining the correct form of the SHM equation.

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Hi, I need advice as to whether or not I solved this question correctly. I would really appreciate the feedback, etc... I really need to know if I did this right

QA: A 2kg object is attached to a spring and placed on a horizontal smooth surface. A horizontal force of 20N is required to hold the object at rest when it is pulled 0.2m from its equilibrium position (the origin of the x axis). The object is now released from rest with an initial position of xi=0.2m, and it subsequently undergoes simple harmonic oscillations. Find the force constant of the spring.<--- This is the one I'm having problems with

you see, I use the 20N force, but made it NEGATIVE and made it equal to the force in the spring. Therefore Fs= -20N = -kx
x=0.2m so I isolate and solve for k.
Is this right? I get a value of 100N/m. I know how to solve all the other following qa but it's just the first one that's bothering me. Do I have the right idea or did I do something oh so horribly wrong. I would really appreciate it if someone could rid me of my anxieties. lol
Thank you very much for your time.
 
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And I also made Amplitude= 0.2m
Is that the right idea, I also made the general equation x(t)= Acos(wt)
 
Yes, that all looks right.
 
The spring constant is just the amount of force required for unit displacement, whether that displacement gives tensile or compressive force.
So, it didn't matter about signs.
You have 20N for a 0.2m displacement, so

k = 20N per 0.2m
k = 100N/m
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Ok, but in this situation, do I use x(t)= Acos(wt)
or Asin(wt)?
How do I know which one to use! I always get confused!
 
If you get confused, use x(t)=Acos(wt) + Bsin(wt) and use the initial conditions to solve for the coefficients A and B. In this case the object is not moving when it is released, so x'(0)=0-->0=-Asin(0) + Bcos(0) = -A(0) + B(1) = B -->B=0 --> x(t) = Acos(wt)
 
It all depends what your initial condition is/was. Where did the particle start from?

If you have x = Acos(wt), then at t=0, x = A, so the movement has started off with the particle at the far end of its movement.
If x = Asin(wt) then at t=0, x = 0, so the particle is at its equlibrium position - right in the middle of its motion.

Edit: which is pretty much what LeonhardEuler has said.
 

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