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The discussion revolves around a problem from an Intermediate Mechanics of Materials class, specifically focusing on plotting an engineering stress-strain diagram using provided data tables for medium-carbon steel. The problem involves interpreting data related to load, elongation, and area, and understanding how to derive strain from the given information.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about how to plot the stress-strain diagram, particularly regarding the meaning of certain instructions and the lack of elongation data for the plastic region.
  • Another participant proposes using the overlapping data point between the two tables to calculate Poisson's ratio, which could then be applied to derive longitudinal strain from the load vs. area data.
  • A subsequent post raises a question about which Poisson's ratio to use, given that there are two overlapping points with different ratios, one in the elastic region and one in the plastic region.
  • A later reply discusses the relationship between stress and strain in the elastic region, mentioning the proportional limit and the complexities of the stress-strain relationship beyond yield strength.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the best approach to take regarding the calculation of strain and the use of Poisson's ratio. There are multiple viewpoints on how to handle the data and the implications of the elastic and plastic regions.

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Participants have noted the challenges of plotting data by hand and the potential complications arising from the differing Poisson's ratios. The discussion does not resolve how to handle the overlapping data points or the implications for the stress-strain diagram.

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This problem is from my Intermediate Mechanics of Materials class. Given are two tables for a specimen of medium-carbon steel with initial diameter 0.503 in and gauge length 2 in. The two tables are labeled "Elastic State" and "Plastic State".

The first table gives the Load vs. Elongation...Load ranging from 1,000 lbf to 9,200 lbf and Elongation ranging from 0.0004 into 0.0089 in.

The second table gives load vs. Area. Load ranging from 8,800 lbf to 14,800 lbf and Area ranging from 0.1984 in^2 to 0.1077 in^2.

The question is to plot the engineering stress-strain diagram using two scales for the unit strain (epsilon), one from zero to about 0.02 in/in and the other from zero to maximum strain.

I don't understand what it means by the bold part. Also, how can I plot stress vs strain for the plastic part if I only have the change in area...I don't have the elongation so I can't find strain.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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OK, I got an idea. There's one data point overlap between the two tables at 9200 lbf. For this point, I know the elongation (from first table) and area (from second table) so I can find the lateral and longitudinal strain. From those, I can find poisson's ratio. After finding poisson's ratio, I can use it on the second table to get the longitudinal strain and have load (which can be changed to stress) vs. strain instead of load vs. area. From that I can plot the stress-strain diagram for the plastic area.

I really need to know if what I'm thinking about is right or wrong or if there's an easier way to do it because this would be a pain in the a$$ to do for all the data points and...I have to do it by hand on engineering paper and plot everything by hand too. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
After looking at the data again, I saw that there are two points that overlap. Poisson's ratio is different for both of them...should I use the one that's more in the elastic part or the one that's more in the plastic part?
 
In the purely elastic region, the strain is given by [itex]\epsilon = \sigma / E[/itex], and this begins before the 0.2% (strain) offset, where Yield strength is usually determined. The point where the stress-strain relationship departs the purely linear relationship is the proportional limit.

If one loads a tensile specimen to the point where stress = yield strength (as determine from the 0.2% offset, then there should be approximately 0.2% permanent (plastic) deformation (elongation) remaining when the specimen is unloaded (in a uniaxial test).

Going beyond yield, up to the ultimate tensile strength, the relationship between stress and strain is more complicated. At ultimate tensile strength, the uniform elongation is reached and that is when necking begins. Or course, this assumes a more or less ideal material.
 

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