My politics and world affairs threads going off-topic theory.

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The discussion revolves around a theory regarding the tendency of threads in politics and world affairs to deviate into off-topic arguments, particularly focusing on the dichotomy of Capitalism versus Communism. Participants explore the dynamics of these discussions, including the sequence of topics that lead to this central debate.

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  • One participant proposes a theory that threads will degenerate into off-topic discussions, culminating in a Capitalism vs. Communism argument, unless interrupted by locking or dying out.
  • Another participant challenges the order of topics, suggesting that discussions about the Iraq war typically arise before any mention of balance of power.
  • A different viewpoint questions the clarity of the term "balance of power," suggesting it may be too vague and applicable to various topics.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the clarity and agreement within the communist perspective, noting that differing interpretations exist.
  • It is noted that one participant often traces discussions back to Capitalism vs. Communism, which some find reasonable given her Marxist perspective.
  • Humor is introduced regarding the implications of Marxism on everyday problems, such as a clogged toilet, questioning the relevance of political ideologies to mundane issues.
  • Another participant elaborates on the differences in implementations of capitalism, comparing the US to parts of Europe and highlighting societal differences.

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Participants express differing views on the sequence of topic degradation and the clarity of terms used, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus on the theory presented.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions hinge on the vagueness of terms like "balance of power," and there are unresolved questions about the definitions and interpretations of communism and capitalism.

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my "politics and world affairs threads going off-topic" theory.

All threads will degenerate, by order of priority, through several off-topic discussions arguments ending with a Communism vs. Capitalism argument. Any thread that does not fully complete this sequence will be because of locking or death. Any argument that remains on the off-topic (off, not on topic - important) discussion of Capitalism vs. Communism will be locked or killed within 7 days. A thread where the topic is Capitalism vs. Communism will degenerate in the opposite direction of priority and then degrade back to the topic repeatedly (like it'll bounce up and down) until death or locking.

The priority I'm still working out, but it ends something like this:
-Balance of power
-Iraq war
-Corporatism
-US corruption/benevolence
-Capitalism vs Communism
 
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Nah, I think the digression into discussing the Iraq war usually occurs prior to any discussion of balance of power. In fact, balance of power is vague enough that I'm not even entirely sure what you mean by that. It sounds like a part of all those topics.
 
Balanace of power? Cant everything be reduced to that general term?
Where are all these capi vs. commi threads i hear about :D. The one thing i dislike about communists is that they can't agree as to what exactly communism is and if it has or hasnt been used in recent history. I remember some guy thinking Canada's government was a communist government.
 
I think that the Capitalism vs Communism argument happens here so much because Alexandria tends to trace everything back to it. Not knocking her for it, it makes sense considering her perspective.
 
What is her perspective.
 
Marxist... duh
 
So, what... if you are a Marxist, any and all problems come down to capitalism vs. communism? So my toilet clogging is Bill Gates' fault?
 
Pengwuino said:
So, what... if you are a Marxist, any and all problems come down to capitalism vs. communism? So my toilet clogging is Bill Gates' fault?
designed to fail so you are forced to buy plunger xp - plummers edition. :biggrin:
 
TheStatutoryApe said:
I think that the Capitalism vs Communism argument happens here so much because Alexandria tends to trace everything back to it. Not knocking her for it, it makes sense considering her perspective.

It also surfaces often since the implementations & degrees of capitalism differ quite a bit. Compare for example US to many parts of Europe, and considering the magnitude of the societal differences (between these 2 for one) not surprised it staying afloat.
 
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Pengwuino said:
So, what... if you are a Marxist, any and all problems come down to capitalism vs. communism? So my toilet clogging is Bill Gates' fault?
Yeah. Marxism is based on the ideas of class warfare and on revolution from capitalism. No offence, but your toilet clogging is hardly a political problem, let alone one to warrant attention from the vastly surperior marxists.
 

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