Mass conservation in meson theory

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of mass conservation in the context of meson theory, particularly focusing on the exchange of pions in nuclear forces. Participants explore the implications of mass and energy conservation during particle interactions, questioning how mass conservation is maintained when lighter particles appear to give rise to heavier ones.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how mass conservation is upheld in meson theory, particularly when lighter particles like protons can lead to heavier particles like neutrons through pion exchange.
  • Another participant asserts that while total energy must be conserved, mass itself is not necessarily conserved in these interactions, suggesting that kinetic energy may contribute to the emission of pions.
  • A follow-up inquiry seeks clarification on how the mass of pions is estimated, acknowledging their existence despite the energy conservation argument.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that pions may be virtual particles, which could allow for temporary violations of energy conservation during the exchange process, while still maintaining overall energy conservation for the nucleons involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conservation of mass versus energy, with some arguing that mass is not conserved in these interactions while others emphasize the importance of energy conservation. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of mass conservation in the context of pion exchange.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the definitions of mass and energy conservation in this context, and there are unresolved questions about the nature of virtual particles and their implications for conservation laws.

Reshma
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In the Meson theory of nuclear forces, exchange of pi meson is given by:

[tex]n\rightarrow n + \pi^{0}[/tex]
[tex]p\rightarrow p + \pi^{0}[/tex]
[tex]n\rightarrow p + \pi^{-}[/tex]
[tex]p\rightarrow n + \pi^{+}[/tex]

Here the charge is conserved. But I don't understand how mass conservation takes place as in some of the cases a lighter mass gives rise to a heavier mass as in case of protons giving rise to neutons. So how is mass conservation obeyed here and mass of pion is estimated?
 
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Mass conservation? Total energy must be conserved, but mass is not. The incident particle (or original particle) must have some energy available (say through kinetic energy) to emit the pion.
Make sense?
Cheers,
Ryan
 
Hi Ryan, thank you for replying. So the energy is conserved here. However, pions do have mass. How is this mass estimated?
 
Reshma said:
Hi Ryan, thank you for replying. So the energy is conserved here. However, pions do have mass. How is this mass estimated?


How about this one ?

marlon
 
In the pion-exchange model, aren't the pions virtual instead of real? If they're virtual, they can temporarily violate energy conservation during the exchange process; but the total energy of the two nucleons before the exchange equals their total energy after the exchange.
 

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