Determine the power per unit area arriving at the Earth

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power per unit area arriving at the Earth from the Sun, based on the Sun's temperature and radius. The problem involves concepts from thermodynamics and radiative transfer.

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  • Participants discuss the formula for radiation and how to apply it to find the total power radiated by the Sun. Questions arise regarding the correct setup for calculating the power per unit area at the distance of the Earth, particularly whether to include the radius of the Earth in the distance measurement.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly interpret the distance measurement and its implications for the calculations. Some participants provide clarifications on the geometry involved, while others question the assumptions made regarding the distance from the Sun to the Earth.

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Participants are considering significant figures and the relevance of the Earth's radius in the calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the distance used in calculations accurately reflects the physical setup of the problem.

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a) Find the total power radiated into space by the Sun, assuming it to be a perfect emitter at T = 5690 K. The Sun's radius is 7.0 108 m.

(b) From this, determine the power per unit area arriving at the Earth, 1.5 X 10^11 m away.

the formula for radiation is Power = (emittance factor)*(Stefan-Boltzmann constant)*(Area)*T^4. So I can find a) easily.

however for b, do I set up a ratio of some sort with the radius of the Earth being (1.5 X 10 ^11 + radius of the earth) or just 1.5 X 10 ^11 ?
 
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The radiant flux, [itex]\Phi[/itex], at some distance from the sun is just the total power PS divided by the area at that distance, 4[itex]\pi[/itex]d2.
 
What you need is the area of the Earth (more correctly the disk facing the sun) as a ratio of the surface area of the entire sphere centered at the sun with radius 1.4x1011. Your "1.5x1011+ radius of the earth" is simply assuming that that 1.5x1011 is measured to the point on the Earth nearest the sun which simply isn't true. Any way, if you are keeping track of "significant figures", the radius of the Earth would just disappear!
 
Is the 1.5 X 10^11 measured from the surface of the sun to the center of the earth? I have included the figure here:
 

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Assume that 1.5 E11 m is from the center of the sun. The radius of the sun, 7 E8 m is only 0.5% of 1.5 E11.
 

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