The DNA of politics


by Ivan Seeking
Tags: politics
Ivan Seeking
Ivan Seeking is offline
#1
Sep10-05, 12:29 AM
Emeritus
Sci Advisor
PF Gold
Ivan Seeking's Avatar
P: 12,493
If genes determine political orientation, which has been suggested a number of times in recent years,
http://www.apsanet.org/imgtest/GeneticsAPSR0505.pdf

then isn't democracy a bit of a genetic crap shoot? Depending of course on the total influence of one's genetic, political orientation, the very notions of dialogue and augmentation seem to lose significance to that degree.
Phys.Org News Partner Social sciences news on Phys.org
Study finds law dramatically curbing need for speed
Newlyweds, be careful what you wish for
Can new understanding avert tragedy?
EnumaElish
EnumaElish is offline
#2
Sep10-05, 10:02 AM
Sci Advisor
HW Helper
EnumaElish's Avatar
P: 2,483
I think a lot of statements like, "X, Y, and Z are genetically determined" are taken way out of their context. In the limit, they are posited to imply an absence of free will, which I refuse to accept.
russ_watters
russ_watters is offline
#3
Sep10-05, 10:31 PM
Mentor
P: 22,001
I think the two-party system is inherrently stable, meaning there will always be two parties of roughly equal strength. You can see the effect now - with the Republican party being in control for so long, it has started to move to the right and the Democratic party is in flux as well. When that all shakes-out, the ideologies will have changed and the balance restored. It has happened before.

So while I agree that people are wired by genetics for a lot of their personality traits. I take after my father in a lot of ways. He's an engineer, as am I. He is self-employed and I am headed down that path. But he voted for Clinton....twice. So perhaps I take after my mother more when it comes to the politics...

WhiteWolf
WhiteWolf is offline
#4
Sep11-05, 05:25 AM
P: 75

The DNA of politics


If that were true...wouldn't countries like Russia remain communist? Single events can completely sway the power of political parties. If it was genetic, political systems would be much more stable then they are. It wouldnt change as much, or as quickly. I think the idea for political affiliation is ludicrous.
russ_watters
russ_watters is offline
#5
Sep11-05, 10:30 AM
Mentor
P: 22,001
I meant a 2 party system in a democracy is inherrently stable. Communist Russia was autocratic and stability was maintained at gunpoint. That isn't natural stability.
BobG
BobG is offline
#6
Sep11-05, 07:53 PM
Sci Advisor
HW Helper
BobG's Avatar
P: 2,275
Quote Quote by Ivan Seeking
If genes determine political orientation, which has been suggested a number of times in recent years,
http://www.apsanet.org/imgtest/GeneticsAPSR0505.pdf

then isn't democracy a bit of a genetic crap shoot? Depending of course on the total influence of one's genetic, political orientation, the very notions of dialogue and augmentation seem to lose significance to that degree.
So, you're saying the reason there are so many Libertarians is because chemicals in the water we drink, food we eat, air we breath are causing genetic mutations?

For that to be true, the common threads among all political systems would have to be identified. In other words, maybe a person might be genetically more disposed to resist changes, etc and more likely to join whatever political party happened to match his genetic disposition. But, those same traits would have to re-occur through all political systems in the world (except in the case of mutant Libertarians).
Ivan Seeking
Ivan Seeking is offline
#7
Sep11-05, 08:45 PM
Emeritus
Sci Advisor
PF Gold
Ivan Seeking's Avatar
P: 12,493
Quote Quote by BobG
So, you're saying the reason there are so many Libertarians is because chemicals in the water we drink, food we eat, air we breath are causing genetic mutations?
No, that would explain the right shift recently though.

The point here is to consider how much of our thinking is based on reason and life experience, and how much might be inherent.

This would explain why it seems a waste of time to argue politics. Could this be in part why people believe what they want to believe? Is this why conservatives tend to watch Fox News, and liberals tend more towards PBS [the real news] ?


Register to reply

Related Discussions
The politics of academia Academic Guidance 4
Sex and politics Current Events 7
politics Forum Feedback & Announcements 1
Should i go into politics General Discussion 10