Physics Kinematics of a rock drop

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The problem involves the kinematics of a rock dropped from a cliff, where the time taken for the sound of the rock hitting the ocean to be heard is given as 3.2 seconds. Participants are exploring how to calculate the height of the cliff using the speed of sound and the time of fall.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the ambiguity of the 3.2 seconds, questioning whether it refers to the time after the rock is dropped or after it strikes the ocean. There are attempts to apply kinematic equations, with some participants expressing uncertainty about initial conditions and variables involved.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have provided equations and reasoning, while others are still seeking clarity on the setup and calculations. No consensus has been reached on the correct approach or solution.

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There is mention of previous threads on the topic, indicating that this is a recurring question. Participants are also under time constraints due to an upcoming test.

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Hey... need some help with this quesiton:

A rock is dropped from a sea cliff and the sound of it striking the ocean is heard 3.2 seconds later. Ifthe speed of sound is 340 m/s, how high is the cliff?

multiplying 3.2 by 340 gets me 1088 m which doesn't seem right.

How do I go about solving this problem?


Thanks much.
 
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That does not seem right. The question seems rather ambiguous as to whether they mean 3.2 seconds after the rock strikes the ocean or after it is dropped. Try it the other way; 3.2 seconds after the rock is dropped
 
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There was already a thread on this. Try searching.
 
I read the other thread but I still don't get it.

H(t) = -4.9t^2+ h0

I do not know h0 so that remains an unknown. IF I add that to v/h then I am going to have quite a few unknowns.
 
Is h0 the initial speed? If so, shouldn't it be zero?
 
H0 is imo the initial height.

If h0 = 0 ,

H= (-4.9)(3.2) = 15.68 m

H+ (v/h) = 15.68 + ( 340/15.68) = 37.36 m

Is that correct?
 
haha are you in my class?

number 47 right Maccully
 
haha are you in my class?

number 47 right Maccully

huh...? what's 47? This is from the Giancoli book by Prentice Hall.
 
its number 47, in the book
 
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probably is.. dunno... anyhow, still need the answer.. got a test tomorrow on this chapter :(
 
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Time spent falling + time for sound to travel up cliff = 3.2s

To work out the time spent falling reaarange your equation of motion
[tex]x=ut+\frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
[tex]u=0[/tex]
[tex]x=\frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
[tex]t=\sqrt{\frac{2x}{a}}[/tex]
The time for the sound to travel up the cliff is x/v, so your equation is:
[tex]\sqrt{\frac{2x}{a}} + \frac{x}{v} = 3.2[/tex]
which has a solution at 46.02m
 

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