Calculate Change in V_EB and V_CE with Variation in Temp

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of changes in emitter and collector voltages of a pnp transistor with varying temperature. Participants are exploring the implications of given current values and the temperature relationship in the context of transistor behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to utilize two given values for emitter current in the problem, expressing confusion over their relevance.
  • Another participant suggests that the question may be poorly constructed, noting the lack of necessary information regarding the doping of the transistor and the temperature dependence of current gain.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that the first value of emitter current might actually represent collector current, indicating a potential misprint in the source material.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the assumption that the first current value could be collector current, citing the need for a very low beta for that to be plausible.

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Participants generally express disagreement regarding the clarity and completeness of the problem statement, with multiple competing views on the interpretation of the current values and their implications for the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential missing assumptions related to the transistor's doping and the specific temperature relationship to apply, as well as the ambiguity surrounding the current values provided.

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Consider a pnp transistor with [tex]{v_{EB}=0.7V[/tex] and [tex]{i_{E}=1mA[/tex]. Let the base be grounded and the emitter be fed by a 2 mA constant current source , and the collector be connected toa -5V supply through a 1-Killoohms resistance. if the temperature increases by 30 degree celsius, find the change in emitter and collector voltages. neglect the effect of [tex]{I_{CBO}[/tex]


Now my dear friends! the problem I am getting here is this that we are given to values for the emitter current. I just can't get how to use both of them to get the right answer. Secondly what temperature relationship should i use. I can tell u the right answers as well

Ans: -60 mV and 0V

please help me as soon as possible.

Thanks in advance
 
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I noticed also that you are given 2 values for emitter current. It sounds like a pointless question to me.
 
I think the question is also missing relevant information. As I recall the temperature dependence of the current gain is mostly due to the fact the emitter injection efficiency changes with temp. To really figure it out I think you need to know about the doping of the transistor.

From looking at the answer I'll bet you're supposed to apply some random rule of thumb given to you by your instructor because we often use -2mV/C here for envelope calculations. But given the contradicting information in my opinion it's really just an ill formed question.
 
dont u think that the first value of the emitter current is actually that of the collector current. May be there is some misprinting in the book. If yes then what are ur ideas
?
 
shaiqbashir said:
dont u think that the first value of the emitter current is actually that of the collector current.

Unless the transistor has an incredibly low beta then I doubt it.
 

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